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    Messed up

    Hi guys!

    I messed up recently so I need your advice.

    I have started a dbol only cycle (which I know now was a bad idea). I've been on it for a week now, have PCT planned (got nolva and liv52). I've read through this forum a lot in the past week, and checked diet plans and all. I definitely can't diet properly to gain significant mass; according to what is stated on this site it would cost me 600-750$ a month to eat and i sure as hell can't afford that. I can manage a little bit more than 1g protein per pound of body weight.

    So not only am I on a stupid cycle, but I can't get in enough food to build significant mass (gained 3lbs but I suspect it's just water retention from the dbol).

    So basically, I want to stop. However, I probably shut down my test right now by taking 40mg dbol ED for a week. So, what is best? Finish my cycle (was planning on 4 weeks total) then start over after PCT?

    Or, stop and start PCT right now? I'd like to stop right now if I could......I'm confused, please give me advice!

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    I'd just come off & wait it out

    Could PCT, run some clomid with Nolvadex for like 2-4 weeks


    Either way within 2 months get blood work

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    *btw what i mean by "start over" is going at it like I did before, no roids.

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    Why blood work?

    Test levels will get back to normal eventually right?

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    Also, I am 28 years old, 173lbs, 5'8''. Have been training for only a year, and this is my first try at roids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I'd just come off & wait it out

    Could PCT, run some clomid with Nolvadex for like 2-4 weeks

    Either way within 2 months get blood work
    Do this.......

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    Ok but needing blood tests kinda worries me i just wanna know some details about why lol

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    If I knew this shit would get me in that bad a condition after 1 week i would've never touched it

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    Getting BW in 2 months is to make sure everything came back to a normal range after being shut down.

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    Blood test to see your levels have recovered or not
    Ya it's good you stopped it. As for the budget part, start buying meat on sale and etc, you ll learn eventually how to save tons of $$$
    I spend about 80$ a week and get all my meals

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    Quote Originally Posted by EquilibriumZ View Post
    Blood test to see your levels have recovered or not
    Ya it's good you stopped it. As for the budget part, start buying meat on sale and etc, you ll learn eventually how to save tons of $$$
    I spend about 80$ a week and get all my meals
    Omg really? At that price, i'd even be saving money considering i eat out a whole lot XD

    But are chances high that my test levels won't have recovered in 2 months?

    Oh yeah and I just noticed, it's been 5 days not a week. But it probably doesn't change anything XD

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    And yeah, thank you for replying, I was really hoping for advice before going to bed tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by kehei1 View Post
    Omg really? At that price, i'd even be saving money considering i eat out a whole lot XD

    But are chances high that my test levels won't have recovered in 2 months?

    Oh yeah and I just noticed, it's been 5 days not a week. But it probably doesn't change anything XD
    Eating out a lot is really not good. They put way too much fat in restaurant food.

    Dbol only cycle is a crap cycle like already stated. Either get some testosterone or stop it do a mini PCT.

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    Yeah, I hear this - I mean a lot

    Most guys around me want the same shit, but just can't hang. It's a big commitment - my diet is way dif than the average. BW is required quite often - I stay on gear year round(low dose in between cycles). There's a ton that goes with this.

    What's funny is that a dBol only cycle is why I started looking into juice almost a decade ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Eating out a lot is really not good. They put way too much fat in restaurant food.

    Dbol only cycle is a crap cycle like already stated. Either get some testosterone or stop it do a mini PCT.
    Yes I will probably do a Test E cycle, but not before june. I wanna get over this mistake and heal properly before.

    How's 40mg Nolva ED for 2 weeks sound for a "mini PCT"?

    I don't have clomid on hand btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Yeah, I hear this - I mean a lot

    Most guys around me want the same shit, but just can't hang. It's a big commitment - my diet is way dif than the average. BW is required quite often - I stay on gear year round(low dose in between cycles). There's a ton that goes with this.

    What's funny is that a dBol only cycle is why I started looking into juice almost a decade ago.
    I don't think all of the current PH's that were on the market helped the new guys out at all. More or less made it more convenient to have problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Yeah, I hear this - I mean a lot

    Most guys around me want the same shit, but just can't hang. It's a big commitment - my diet is way dif than the average. BW is required quite often - I stay on gear year round(low dose in between cycles). There's a ton that goes with this.

    What's funny is that a dBol only cycle is why I started looking into juice almost a decade ago.
    Well I'm ready for a commitment; I've been going to the gym 4 times a week every week for the last year, haven't missed a single day at the gym. Once I get this food thing down I'm pretty sure I can reach 190 naturally in not too long, maybe another year and a half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Eating out a lot is really not good. They put way too much fat in restaurant food.

    Dbol only cycle is a crap cycle like already stated. Either get some testosterone or stop it do a mini PCT.
    Also, I did think about mixing in Test E. However according to the info on this forum, If my eating habits aren't adjusted then no matter what I gain I will lose it post-cycle.

    Right now I'm into pretty hardcore math studies, things will calm down in summer and then I can focus on controlling my diet better.

    And by eating out I mean eating subway sandwiches with 76g protein and 16g fat, only 4g saturated. It's not THAT bad
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    Yeah - Subway is still crap in a real life macro nutritional break down

    It's brined meat - yup, same shit I was saying years ago - it's got protein

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Yeah - Subway is still crap in a real life macro nutritional break down

    It's brined meat - yup, same shit I was saying years ago - it's got protein
    So what you're saying is that protein should only come from home cooked meals?

    What do they do to the meat so that the protein in it becomes useless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kehei1 View Post

    So what you're saying is that protein should only come from home cooked meals?

    What do they do to the meat so that the protein in it becomes useless?
    The idea is to get you into tracking your protein and other macros. Tuna fish, chicken, some ref meat,egg beaters...etc. get out the food scale, role up your sleeves and learn to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown
    The idea is to get you into tracking your protein and other macros. Tuna fish, chicken, some ref meat,egg beaters...etc. get out the food scale, role up your sleeves and learn to eat.
    This is a huge process that took me years

    It was way easier to just hit the juice & lift weights. Yet, the results still sucked ass. A calorie is not a calorie, a gram of protein is not a gram of protein.

    A sandwich is not the same as 8oz's of chicken and a cup of brown rice - yet, on paper the #'s are so similar
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    My goal is to gain 15 pounds of lean mass, so I'm sure I can get away with not becoming fanatical over what I eat.

    225-250g of protein from real food, whole grain, nuts, yogurt, whey shakes, skim milk and cottage cheese before bed seems like an OK plan to me. I don't have time to get a food scale and measure everything I eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >
    This is a huge process that took me years It was way easier to just hit the juice & lift weights. Yet, the results still sucked ass. A calorie is not a calorie, a gram of protein is not a gram of protein. A sandwich is not the same as 8oz's of chicken and a cup of brown rice - yet, on paper the #'s are so similar
    does anyone have a trusted site for ordering real gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saljon22 View Post
    does anyone have a trusted site for ordering real gear?
    This is NOT a source forum and its against forum rules if you read them you would recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saljon22 View Post
    does anyone have a trusted site for ordering real gear?
    Here you go. You can thank me later.
    http://gearheads.org/

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    Lmao - oh Jesus

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