I Think It's Time To Juice

**Mr.BB** · 02-03-2015, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Mykl

Will it change my life in a good way or bad way? Thanks, but I think I'll try the diet change first before playing with hormones.

Without a testosterone base it would change your life in a very bad way.

I think you are smart in doing the diet change before anything else.
Set yourself with realistic goals. If your goals are to be lean and fit and just some better calves you dont need steroids . If your goal is to develop your muscles beyond being lean and fit you may start to think about juice, but only after educating yourself on all aspects of the required drugs. Of course, its smart to do the diet change first, if you set yourself to reach 200lbs you need to eat like a 200lbs person would.

**HawaiiLifr** · 02-03-2015, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Without a testosterone base it would change your life in a very bad way.

Doh!!

**Mykl** · 02-03-2015, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiiLifr

You obviously have done ZERO research on AAS

I did enough to know that Testosterone is the first thing I should try and should be the foundation of all cycles. I'm taking the pure gold of eating differently before screwing with my hormones. As juicing is out of the question for some months, if not forever, I've devoted my research time to planning my food.

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

Without a testosterone base it would change your life in a very bad way.

Would someone care to explain what would actually happen if I went ahead without the T?

**HawaiiLifr** · 02-03-2015, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mykl

Would someone care to explain what would actually happen if I went ahead without the T?

Case in point. You've done no research. Btw, AAS is not "screwing with your hormones". Maybe you should change the title of your thread.

**Jesusbrah** · 02-03-2015, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Mykl

Would someone care to explain what would actually happen if I went ahead without the T?

Basically, when you take steroids , your body stops producing test. This is because steroids "replicate" test, thereby "tricking" the body to think that there is way to much testosterone present. However, only test is test, and the lack of real testosterone in your body would give you some undesirable side effects.

**Chicagotarsier** · 02-04-2015, 12:29 AM

Sure thing.

Why Use AAs is the core thought.

BBs have only one end result that that is a success. Low bf%, high density muscle in bulk quantities.

If a person has 15% bf it is considered "very high" by the BB community and on these boards you should not use AAs if you are over 15%.

These thought process are unique to BBs in general. SO lets say you have a distance swimmer (real distance as in 100 KM or more), or a linemen for a college football team, or a discus thrower, or (insert a million athletic positions that require a real cardio system with muscle and bf%)

An athlete is not a BB and a BB is not an athlete. How AAs work is the same in either body but the way you want your body to develop is very different. I personally believe this comes from the BB having no use for fast twitch muscle and their true goal of slow twitch larger muscle strand muscle.

SO just two different critters completely. If a guy is running marathons he is never going to be able to acquire the build Marcus has due to muscle type as long as he is training for marathons. Marcus will never keep his build and run marathons at the speeds a person with fast twitch muscle does. Just the science, or nature, of it.

Originally Posted by Baxter35

I get where you're coming from I think, except the line about being able to jog a mile or more. Can you expand on that? I don't see how having the cardiovascular stamina to jog or swim would effect the theory/process for gaining muscle if that person decided that's what they want to do.

**Baxter35** · 02-04-2015, 07:08 AM

I'm with you on that. Even though I pretty much knew where you were coming from, the way it was first said was that if you are capable of running more than a mile then the theories simply wouldn't work. They work, but that person would have to make a choice of which way they want to go. I wouldn't go so far as to say a BB isn't an athlete, but definitely a very different type of athlete for sure. To me, an athlete is someone willing to subject there body to great stress and even possible damage in the pursuit of victory in their chosen sport....BB's definitely fit that. As for the OP, he may not have long term goals of bring a BB, but he has stated a desire to bulk up for which following BB principles will work for that goal.

**Mykl** · 02-04-2015, 03:07 PM

I would definitely say BB's are athletes. Sure, they're not as strong as strength athletes but they're putting their bodies through extremes that most people couldn't cope with. Although any BB competition doesn't involve moving faster or further than the competitors it does involve brutal training, but I think you guys know this!

On a slightly different note, what exactly is a BB? Many people would say that someone who wants to develop their physique to look lean and increase muscle size is building their body, therefore is a bodybuilder. This is exactly my goal, though not to the levels of many of you guys. If my arms get to 16" at some point, even by the end of my life, that would be great, but my opinion is that I wouldn't look good with more than 16" arms. That's not to say I don't admire the physiques of people my height with 20" arms, it's just not what I want for myself. Does that mean that I'll never be a 'real' BB? I'm not being belligerent, I'm just asking for opinions.

**Jesusbrah** · 02-04-2015, 03:52 PM

athlete - definition of athlete in English from the Oxford dictionary

**< <Samson> >** · 02-04-2015, 04:08 PM

Never seen myself as an "athlete" - now I am, geez - I rock

**kelkel** · 02-04-2015, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Never seen myself as an "athlete" - now I am, geez - I rock

If you don't say so yourself!

**Bonaparte** · 02-04-2015, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mykl

You're not far off. Is that avatar good enough or do you people want more?

A larger picture would be more telling. But from that thumbnail, you're doing better than I imagined.

**Mykl** · 02-05-2015, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

A larger picture would be more telling. But from that thumbnail, you're doing better than I imagined.

You're too late! Two days ago I had an almost full body shot there instead of torso. Try this:
myklwebs.com/myklscape/modelling/mussy/mykl-7.jpg

**Jesusbrah** · 02-05-2015, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mykl

You're too late! Two days ago I had an almost full body shot there instead of torso. Try this:
myklwebs.com/myklscape/modelling/mussy/mykl-7.jpg

Didnt know Jigsaw did modeling

**razman** · 02-05-2015, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Haydenz

you are 74 kilos and at 15% bf, which im sure is higher than what you say, You are sitting on about 61 kilos of muscle, you havent been training for 23 years.

Mykl, nevermind this guy above. 90% of his posts deal with knocking people down instead of offering poignant, supportive advice. Luckily most users here are very helpful.

At any rate, welcome to the forum. You'll gain a lot while being here (pun intended). Just read through many of newbie threads (e.g., Austinite's educational database) and ask a lot of questions which you'll undoubtedly have. Good luck.

**Mykl** · 02-05-2015, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jesusbrah

Didnt know Jigsaw did modeling

Haha, well, the films came to an end. I feel there's a touch of Predator about it as well.

Originally Posted by razman

Mykl, nevermind this guy above. 90% of his posts deal with knocking people down instead of offering poignant, supportive advice. Luckily most users here are very helpful.

Thanks. I realised very quickly that this forum has a few dicks and a lot of experts. There's no point being thin skinned in online communities!

The support from you guys is gratefully accepted.