A stated above I was wondering what kind of fat loss I should expect from clen and will I lose a lot of actual muscle with it? I originally thought it was what I needed but after talking with some guys at the gym they say it's not worth the money.
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A stated above I was wondering what kind of fat loss I should expect from clen and will I lose a lot of actual muscle with it? I originally thought it was what I needed but after talking with some guys at the gym they say it's not worth the money.
Diet alone will work much better for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by tobias 34
I'm already on a 500 calorie deficit. But you would also suggest it isn't worth the money?
It's a very good stimulant. It gives me energy on a 1500kcal deficit. And it helps to maintain muscle.
How does it compare to OTC fat burners?
It's like comparing steroids to testosterone boosters.Quote:
Originally Posted by tobias 34
Tbh, it sucks ass, better off without it. It's nothing compared to steroids
I'm using it with a tren cycle just wondering if the clen would yield any true benefits
For me the resting rate is 49, on clen 100mcg was 100, so tren and clen wouldnt be a good option for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by tobias 34
Anyway clen is useless imo
Everyone is different my friend,
Im stacking it with t3 and ephedrine at the moment and down 7 kilos of fat and fluid in 5 weeks.
im taking 100 mg of clen daily split in 4 dosses
Clen alone won’t do nothing. It has to be stacked at least with a good diet.
Me, Clen+diet, without any cardio, I lost 7kg in 2 weeks.
I could have done the same naturally in 2-3 months...
My diet is clean with cardio 2x a day and I'm losing weight now just not at the rate I'm happy with doing so. I'm not looking for a miracle drug just something to speed up the process good bitQuote:
Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX
Miricle drug, if it existed we would all be on it, you also need to consider going catabolic, drop to much to quick you will be sacrificing muscle. has to be over 8/10 weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by tobias 34
you say it doesn't do anything then right after state the diference from with and without itQuote:
Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX
why clen and ephedrine? they are both bata2 agonist working off the same receptors so I curious why not one or the other since they both have the same effects...I think ephedrine is far better than clen for this purpose in my experiences...Quote:
Originally Posted by Haydenz
From mine and my wifes experience clen works wonders along with intense cardio and a good diet...I will say my wife used it and did nothing but take care of the kids and she lost several inches all over including hips, thighs, waist, ect...when combined with cardio she had dramatic improvement.....I tell everyone this, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT ANYTHING DOES FOR YOU UNTIL YOU TRY IT!! If you are going to give it a go be sure you utilize it in the best way possible, maintaining a healthy diet with good cardio.
I don't think the sides are worth the extra 100 calories burnt a day. Clen wont make you hold onto your muscle during pct. I see no reason to run clen and ephedrine?????? Or do I see the purpose running it with a tes /tren/t3 cycle.....too much.
no you understood wrong. I say clen alone without a good diet is worthless. I did clen + diet and lost 7 kg in 2 weeks. I could have done the same in 2-3 months only with cutting dietQuote:
Originally Posted by swolehead
It'll be different for everyone buddy. For me it has been working quite well without stacking it with anything, just supplementing with taurine for the muscle cramps. Clen has anti-catabolic properties so losing muscle should not be a concern. Many people stack clen with T3 for extra weight loss, however T3 is highly catabolic and will most definitely cause muscle atrophy if not stacked with AAS. It could be the case that the people you heard it from stacked it with T3 and were unhappy with the effects of the T3 and blamed the clen for it.
Bottom line, everyone is different and clen will work great for some people and not so much for others. Hope it works out for you!
It'll be different for everyone buddy. For me it has been working quite well without stacking it with anything, just supplementing with taurine for the muscle cramps. Clen has anti-catabolic properties so losing muscle should not be a concern. Many people stack clen with T3 for extra weight loss, however T3 is highly catabolic and will most definitely cause muscle atrophy if not stacked with AAS. It could be the case that the people you heard it from stacked it with T3 and were unhappy with the effects of the T3 and blamed the clen for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tobias 34
Bottom line, everyone is different and clen will work great for some people and not so much for others. Hope it works out for you!
Thanks this easies my mind a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by rds25
You should expect the left side of your heart to grow but other then that not much fat maybe couple percent of you diets in check
It's about what they actually doQuote:
Originally Posted by ghettoboyd
Clen attacks the nervous system
Ephedra boosts my heart rate and metabolism
T3 moves my thyroid
It's all about safe dosages stacked with each other
I'm also in competiton prep so
I'm aiming for about 5%bf, everything counts
Left side of my heart to grow? I've herd nothing of thiS?Quote:
Originally Posted by altered genetics
im not understanding really but if it works for you then fair enough....good luck with the contest...Quote:
Originally Posted by Haydenz
Where Do you get this info?Quote:
Originally Posted by altered genetics
I've read it multiple times on the web. Just read research. I don't feel like looking for an article to link but google something like clens effects on heart or clen heart enlargement. It enlarges the left ventricle I believe with long term abuse. Honest your pretty much putting long acting cocaine in your body for 2-3 weeks straight or longer if your using keto. All these stimulants are much worse for you then steroids in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by reporich
What's a good starter dose?
I started with 20mcg day 1 which is the typical starting dose. Didn't feel anything, so I decided to go to 60mcg day 2-3 which gave me a more awake feeling but I didn't get the shakes too much. Day 3-5 you can go up to 80mcg if you're comfortable at 60. Then day 6 move on to 100mcg for a few days. Go to 120mcg after if your tolerating the shakes and your resting HR isn't too high. I wouldn't go above 120mcg but I've read of other people that have.Quote:
Originally Posted by tobias 34
I found two awesome forum posts that you should check out. I cannot link you to them since I am a new member but search "clenbuterol" in the search bar at the top right of the screen. The 3rd forum is titled "Clenbuterol handbook" and the 4th forum is titled "Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages." These are awesome reads and I felt a lot more comfortable regarding clen after reading them. Enjoy man.
I have always like it for fat loss and I do believe its anti catabolic as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfarre