5th Cycle Advice (PLEASE :) )

[christian123]

Hey boys,

Been off the site for 1 year. But, planning for Feb 2015, so i need your help.
Last cycle was Sept 2013 (750 mg of test ewith Tbol), not quite the gains i was looking for, cycle previous to that one was 350mg of teste with 400mg of Tren e (i think that gear was underdoed.)

I am looking for a lean bulk cycle (get a hard and shredded look for summer 2015).

I'm 27, 6ft, 230pounds @ 12-14%, looking to get to 8-10%.

I wanted to know what you guys think is better... (no var as its too expensive and i run it at 100mg so f it lol)

Option1 :
1-12 Test E @ 500mg
1-12 Tren E @ 400mg
1-4 Dbol @ 50mg
1-14 Aromasin @ 12.5 eod

PRAMI AND HCG ON CYCLE
With PCT NOLVA AND CLOMID

Option 2:

1-12 Test E @ 500 mg
1-12 Mast E @ 400mg
1-4 Dbol @ 50mg
1-14 Aromasin @ 12.5 eod

HCG ON CYCLE
With PCT NOLVA AND CLOMID

Option 3:

Short esters ( scares the f out of me to pin ed or eod lol)

Let me know what you think is best and why?

Thanks a lot

[christian123]

Also diet will be something like
400gr prots, 300 carbs, 100 fat.

[Buster Brown]

You are going to want to run the aromas in ed not eod. Prami works well but nausea is a side effect that can be avoided if you take it before bed.

[swolehead]

I'd use the first one love what tren does for me

[christian123]

I'd use the first one love what tren does for me

You are an long ester user too?
Have you used prami with it? I cAn't get caber

[christian123]

Final :

Week 1-12 TEST E 750mg
Week 1-12 TREN E 600mg
Week 1-4 DBOL 50Mg
Week10-14 Var 100mg
Week 1-14 aromasin 12.5 ed
Week 1-14 Prami 1gr ed


HCH CLOMID NOLVA PCT

[swolehead]

no I don't use long esters I love short ones test p abd tren ace I pin everyday on my tren cycle. I hate waiting for esters to clear out of my system for weeks before starting pct

[christian123]

no I don't use long esters I love short ones test p abd tren ace I pin everyday on my tren cycle. I hate waiting for esters to clear out of my system for weeks before starting pct

Instead of waiting 14-21 days before pcq, i usually start after 7-10 days. I know there is still some test etc but i like to recover well and not push my luck

[Buster Brown]

Instead of waiting 14-21 days before pcq, i usually start after 7-10 days. I know there is still some test etc but i like to recover well and not push my luck

I hope you are running your pct a week longer then.

[christian123]

I hope you are running your pct a week longer then.

exactly low dose 5th week

[Buster Brown]

exactly low dose 5th week

Good, clo at 50 and nov at 20 for the 5th week .

[christian123]

Good, clo at 50 and nov at 20 for the 5th week .

Yep, friends advise me to go up to 14-16 weeks. What you thunk? Id rather less and recover quickly than dragging it so long.

[Buster Brown]

Yep, friends advise me to go up to 14-16 weeks. What you thunk? Id rather less and recover quickly than dragging it so long.

You don't need to make that decision at this point. See how you feel and what kind of gains you are making then decide to add another week or so.

[christian123]

You don't need to make that decision at this point. See how you feel and what kind of gains you are making then decide to add another week or so.

True that. Thanks a lot for your help man

[christian123]

Starting today.
I will keep you posted of the results!
Changed a few things
1-12 TEST SUS 750mg
1-12 TREN E 400mg (initialy 600mg)
1-4 DBOL @ 50mg

AROMASIN @12.5 mg / day
Prami @.25ng / day
HCG 2x week 250iu