Test E and Winstrol Cycle

[cestro21]

Hey guys! First cycle right here. I was planning on doing
Weeks
1-12 (Test E 500/mg week)
8-12 (Winstrol )

My question basically is, how much Winstrol should i be using and also if somebody could give me some advice on a PCT. Im competing in bodybuilding May 31, so i need the minstrel to help me lean out and lose water weight at the end of my cycle. Any information you guys got i could use! Thank you.

[marcus300]

what are your stats?
how long have you been training?

[ojm3]

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle.

That should answer most of your first cycle questions. Test only first cycle no winstrol . If you need to.lose water weight and fat you need to tighten up your diet.

Like Marcus said. ..stats?

[Lovemiami]

Yes avoid the win for your firsts cycle you will be very happy just with the test and you will have an smooth cycle with very little side effects.

for PCT
do Clomid and Nolva I have some HCG left that I used the first ten days , and I'm planning to use it the PCT as a jump start, but many pople have different opinion on the HCG usage.

[ojm3]

Hcg is for on cycle not pct. Doing so during pct will keep you shut down longer.

READ THAT STICKY!!

Post stats bro!

[cestro21]

Hey guys thanks.
I'm 19 years old 5'8 180 lbs.. I was 195 on January 12th and have recently been cutting but it's been going too fast. Which is why I want to put just a little bit more on.
I know I'm young and you are all probably going to say that. Ive been working our since I was 13 years old.
Bench-350
Squat-505
Deadlift-505

[marcus300]

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

[ojm3]

You are way too young listen to marcus! Work hard and come back around 24-25. Juice now and you potentially mess up your life.