Does testosterone reduce caloric requirements?

[RewardingLabor]

If I can gain more weight with testosterone all things being equal can I reduce calories in by a small amount and still gain weight? Is there any way to predict what that amount might be ?

[austinite]

You can't really gain weight with testosterone as the primary dependent. It is co-dependent alongside your caloric intake. If you eat in a caloric deficit with respect to your daily expenditure (TDEE), you'll merely preserve your muscle tissue and weight gain will not occur.

You can lower your intake, so long as you maintain calories above your TDEE.

[4linked]

You can't really gain weight with testosterone as the primary dependent. It is co-dependent alongside your caloric intake. If you eat in a caloric deficit with respect to your daily expenditure (TDEE), you'll merely preserve your muscle tissue and weight gain will not occur.

You can lower your intake, so long as you maintain calories above your TDEE.

Wouldn't it lower it slightly because you use your calories more efficiently. I thought that was why people who don't eat right loose everything when they come off. Just curious austinite

[cucu]

Wouldn't it lower it slightly because you use your calories more efficiently. I thought that was why people who don't eat right loose everything when they come off. Just curious austinite

Weight gain or loss is always a matter of surplus or deficit. It will never be otherwise, regardless of substance used. It is a law of thermodynamic, you cannot create matter from nothing, neither destroy it into nothing.

With that said, it is true that T will redirect most of the surplus to LBM and most of the deficit to the fatty tissue. But still in respect to your in/outs.

The most difficult part here, were most people fail, is accurately estimating your TDEE and your caloric input.

However, it has been shown that T does not alter BMR per se (apart from LBM changes). So, to your question, for people losing everything, 2 things must be happening at the same time: not eating enough calories, and the gain must be based entirely on gear and not genetics (assuming they keep activity, proper rest and training in check).

[Docd187123]

Wouldn't it lower it slightly because you use your calories more efficiently. I thought that was why people who don't eat right loose everything when they come off. Just curious austinite

Just bc you use a calorie more efficiently does not mean you will end up using less of them. You optimize your calorie partitioning but you will still need x amount of calories to gain or lose weight.

[mietek]

if you want to build muscle you need to eat.

I do not know what you try to gain

[Kazumz]

Weight gain or loss is always a matter of surplus or deficit. It will never be otherwise, regardless of substance used. It is a law of thermodynamic, you cannot create matter from nothing, neither destroy it into nothing.

With that said, it is true that T will redirect most of the surplus to LBM and most of the deficit to the fatty tissue. But still in respect to your in/outs.

The most difficult part here, were most people fail, is accurately estimating your TDEE and your caloric input.

However, it has been shown that T does not alter BMR per se (apart from LBM changes). So, to your question, for people losing everything, 2 things must be happening at the same time: not eating enough calories, and the gain must be based entirely on gear and not genetics (assuming they keep activity, proper rest and training in check).

Correct. I've gone from 14.2 > 15.6 then back to 14.6 after Cycle. It's to do with your genetics also. I've been eating the same, took Arimidex correctly to keep away water, but still you will lose muscle mass. Unfortunately, some people are just not gifted with good testosterone production naturally so once they come off the gear, like myself, they lose pretty much all of it, back to where they hit their natural limitation previously.

Personally I did not eat much more than I did naturally, and gained all that weight. I also dropped a few % in BF which I assume is just lean muscle gains outweighing the fat gains. As said before, once you hit your natty limitation, that's it. If I eat more, I'll just get fatter, even if I train more to match that.

[Cody95]

If I can gain more weight with testosterone all things being equal can I reduce calories in by a small amount and still gain weight? Is there any way to predict what that amount might be ?

Haha no, that's not how steroids work. Steroids don't build muscle, food does. In fact you need to eat more then you normally do if you're going to use AAS, or you'll just waste your time and money.

[tectime]

Food fuels what does build muscle and that's stressing your muscles to a point that they are forced to grow to accommodate the blood flow as your body repairs the minute tears we inflict when doing such exercising. Steroids will assist in the utilization of the nutrients that you receive from the food that you eat. It will not allow you to take and less calories though it like stated above you actually need more galleries due to the amount of calories that you were going to be burning.

[Mr.BB]

Correct. I've gone from 14.2 > 15.6 then back to 14.6 after Cycle. It's to do with your genetics also. I've been eating the same, took Arimidex correctly to keep away water, but still you will lose muscle mass. Unfortunately, some people are just not gifted with good testosterone production naturally so once they come off the gear, like myself, they lose pretty much all of it, back to where they hit their natural limitation previously.

Personally I did not eat much more than I did naturally, and gained all that weight. I also dropped a few % in BF which I assume is just lean muscle gains outweighing the fat gains. As said before, once you hit your natty limitation, that's it. If I eat more, I'll just get fatter, even if I train more to match that.

There could be many reasons for your weight lost, just naming a few, poor nutrition, poor pct, training not on point, etc
Sounds like bad planned cycle

Its very common for 19 year old to have problems like this and worse.