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Or is it too low?
What the rest of the cycle look like? Need more info.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
250mg test-e ew.Quote:
Originally Posted by lovbyts
0.5mg adex ed.
How many cycles have u done before? Ur age, weight, height, training yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
Been on steroids since last April, one 500mg test-e and one 250mg test-e/500 eq blast, 250mg test-e in between. Now on 250mg test-e.Quote:
Originally Posted by tice1212
24 years old, 195lbs, 6'1, 10% BF, training since 2012 seriously.
You've been on aas for 10 months straight? And have done 3 cycles by 24?
Are you on TRT? I doubt it at your age... But,Quote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
Honestly... Not a smart move at all(at any age - let alone yours)! You may have just Fvked yourself for good... I'm not tryin to sound like a dick but just plain stupid to run anything longer than 16 wks(and that's for more advanced users) w/extensive PCT knowledge of AAS!
113 post either were misinterpreting what your saying or you haven't learned much
Im going with the latterQuote:
Originally Posted by swolehead
People don't really cycle here, it's blast and cruise or nothing. Makes sense imo, cycling seems like a waste of time and too much of a hassle psychologically. What I have done is nothing special, I know guys at 19 that blast 1g of test and 1g of tren. I don't agree with it though, it's too high of a dose at any point, just a waste of gear. Anyways, side issue.
What I'm asking is is this dose enough for good gains, I think it is, just want to hear some other opinions. No point in asking someone where I'm at, people mostly approve of high doses, with which I don't really agree.
Blasting and crusing is what everyone I know who is serious about making gains dose. trust me bro most people on this forum and *****'s who are just recycling crap someone else said. I was just on for a year and a half, I'm 26, did about 5 cycles in that time of tons of compounds and I recently came off to give my receptors a break and everything went right back to normal after a month of pct. I'm back on now and Killin it. To answer your question. 50 MG eod is pretty low in my opinion but you will see gains from it forsure, just grab another bottle and make some serious gains. And get yourself some caberQuote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
Your right to have your own opinion about how "Blasting & Cruising" is the only way to go to get serious gains... But is it safe - FVK NO!Quote:
Originally Posted by Projectswole
And being that this site is about preaching safe AAS use(hence cycle time(12-16wks) + PCT = Time off! Just b/c your an exception and have recovered fully in 2 months after all that - I find very hard to believe - but that's GOOD(& your lucky IMHO)...
So just b/c you've done this and have recovered this time, (very incorrectly IMO) don't tell someone new/or without the correct knowledge base to go and Blast and Cruise when he's not on TRT(or in general period)... Thx and that just my .02...
How on earth you say "nothing will happen "?I was on anavar cycle at 50mg for 5 weeks only and i barely managed to recover 4 months later.Everyone is different,doesn't mean that you recovered,everyone will,we are not all the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Projectswole
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Originally Posted by Projectswole
Been here for over a year with only 8 posts?
Bro dont come here and bash our way of doing things. Are people recycling info? sure... at time when the same newb dumabasses keep asking the same damn questions without reading....Sure its recycled
You've done 5 cycles by 26? PCT'ed and came back to normal in a month?
Well yea man a proper pct lasts a month.
So you juiced for over 70 weeks, did a 4 week pct saw you levels were normal and jumped right back on?
You clear lack of understanding of your components and ancillaries effect on your body shows you're unfit to give advice. Don't convince others to wreck their lives because you dont know what the hell your talking about. Nice 8th post BTW.
I totally agree with you on your cruising stance.
Yes 50mg EOD of tren worth it if its legit tren... cause it is damn potent.
Make sure you have prami or caber on hand...
bur after few weeks I would consider increasing up to 100mg EOD.
good luck
I guess having a functioning HPTA at your age doesn't make much sense either.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
Post a pic. You've had to make tremendous gains being on that long.
Are you competing or otherwise making money from this sport?
Recycling crap? Be so kind to teach us something then please. I'm always willing to learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Projectswole
And no doubt you obtained full BW sometime after PCT to make sure all was in working order. Or did you simply judge by how you felt?
I'm currently on 50mg of tren EoD, and it's fine. Any more than that and I start to notice sides. It depends on the legitimacy of your tren. I know people who take 1g of "tren" EW and their physique never changes. If it's real tren, I don't feel that you need very much personally. I respond well to low doses, I suppose.
I wouldn't make a blanket statement like that about blasting and cruising. There are plenty of people that engage in normal cycle/PCT patterns. An "all or nothing" attitude is probably a poor approach when you're talking about injecting yourself with hormones and peptides.
Lastly (And I'm not trying to boast), but when I was 24 I was 30 pounds heavier than you at the same bodyfat, and I'm 5'7". You should re-evaluate the importance of drugz (Edit: Had to change so I'm not recognized as a bot). It sounds like you're trying to use them as the foundation of your physique, instead of using them to supplement it.
Again, I'm not trying to stroke my e-peen. I'm just saying that for the duration that you've been on when considering your age, your stats are not impressive. I would take a break, listen less to what the "everything but the kitchen sink" cycle enthusiasts say, and put your health first. Take care.
I'm glad you chimed in Kel... As I was thinkin about that "recycling crap"... And what other knowledge are we supposed to spew if it's the most advanced known science and proven methods that we know of today and it's to these newer people/members understand... If they read any of the stickies from "Austinites Educationsl Artical Database" to the other stickies, etc... they might not be as ignorant to the situation then... Just my .02...Quote:
Originally Posted by kelkel
Not everyone have the same genetic and you cant compare yourself to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeloBangelo
even on monster amount of gear I will never reach what some can do naturally with 10 time less effort...
thats just what it is...
195 pounds for a true 10% at 6ft1 can be pretty impressive...
Ive seen 170 pounds dude looking ****ing huge. and 220 pounds looking skinny...
weight dont mean much...
as I said above.
50mg EOD is low but you will feel it.
good luck
I can't quote unfortunately, because I'm on my phone. But I agree with you 100% qscgugcsq.
Basically, it comes down to how well your tren is dosed, and how you respond. I stick to 150 EW, and it's perfect for me. I make some gains, I stay lean, and very very very few sides. The highest I've went is 300ew, and it was awful. Where the gains were maybe 5x as good, the sides were 100x worse. Just not a favorable ratio for me.
Well said Angelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeloBangelo
I've seen guys make guys on small dosages.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
I'll skip the rest of the lecture
Currently I am on 80mg EOD & it's working out great. Real good tren though is what makes the dif
I am also 210+ pounds < larger tren doses aren't all they cracked up to be. Your sides go up, but not the positive effect.
100mg eod is a minimum of what id run..
I have to shake my head every time I hear someone say how he knows someone who is 19, 20s or even 30s who does something like this and dont have any issues. I like to ask how many guys do you/they know that use Cialis or V because they have ED issues? Typically it's none but yet they are one of the biggest prescribed (not counting black market) RX in the US. Guys usually dont share the down sides to doing cycles like this and people only see the surface.
I knew a guy in high school who we were pretty much identical in size until our senior year when he just blew up. Yes he was on gear and he even asked me if I wanted to do it with him, he would hook me up. I THOUGHT about it because he looked good but I decided not to. He was in the hospital 3 years later with liver damage.
What's with that ED all the time? I personally don't care about that at all, as long as I can piss while standing I'm OK.
Like for real?!Quote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
Because there is more that is involved than JUST ED. If you have ED then it means your hormones are off, you arent going to have gains like you should and they could be long term or permanent damage eventually causing you months or years of recovery.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
What good does looking good for a few months or even a couple of years mean if you go through years of looking and feeling like sh*t? Like goes on after 30 or 40 for most of us so doing things right and safely is always the best way unless you are just stupid and really dont care but then why would you care about looking good in the 1st place?
The reason everyone mentions ED because it's the most obvious things most guys can relate with and make you think twice before doing something stupid. Most guys enjoy sex, even if they are married.
If you're dickless, like what's the point of anything?
A part of me cleaning myself down from previous drug use & staying dedicated to a semi nominal sauce amount is equal parts of; being big & lean and 2, have a sex life that would put Ron Jeremy to shame(well, I try to at least).
If I had to lose one, looking like I do Or have damn near zero libido issues - my size would be gone out the door with the quickness
Come on guys, you know it's all about how you look. Being healthy and having functioning body parts is overrated.
Thanks for straightening me out. Sometime I get my priorities all screwed up! ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by kelkel
Well it's a fact that the newbies keep trying to convince us of that all the time. I dont know, since I'm not in my teens or 20s anymore I dont have the indestructible or it wont happen to me attitude anymore. Call me paranoid but I like to think past tomorrow and what might happen. That's just me though.Quote:
Originally Posted by kelkel
I don't have an attitude that it won't happen to me, I just don't care, sexuality is not a part of my life. Never was, never will be, so not much will change if I **** something up.Quote:
Originally Posted by lovbyts
their is way more health concern that just not getting an erection...Quote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
So many variables when it comes to dosage questions. I always liked 100 mgs eod as a good jumping off point.
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Originally Posted by dfarre
I must be seeing shit after this long ass drive from a pvssy fest with my woman in Vegas
And they say you can't teach stupid.....Quote:
Originally Posted by dfarre
Personally i wouldnt run that low a dose, i NORMALLY do upwards of 600mg per week. Depending on my goals and my stack etc etc, but 50mg eod i wouldnt see much, would see more injecting olive oil haha!. I do at least 50mg per day or 100mg eod, even then id still go 150-200mg eod. Thats just me though. And most of us Aussies run much higher doses then the rest of the world, from what ive read on various forums :)