Good combination? Side effects?

[Jackson Pitt]

I'm new here looked around and think I'm posting in the right area.

I've been working out for a several years and want to try something new. Buddy of mine suggested this combo. Wanted opinions and possible side effects. Heard about deca dick and I don't want that!

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Like I said, I'm new here and tried to post in the right area. If I need to post somewhere else let me know.

[Red Bastard]

What are those compounds?
Some sort of crappy dangerous prohormones?

Or, just some ineffective, legal, over the counter "test boosting supplements"?

[Jackson Pitt]

What are those compounds?
Some sort of crappy dangerous prohormones?

Or, just some ineffective, legal, over the counter "test boosting supplements"?

Well, that's partly what I'm asking. Can you give me some more info? Risks? Side effects?

[NACH3]

^^^ PH's are sh*t!... Besides being Hepatoxic PHs cause more damage than good(in every case I've seen or heard about! Had a friend who did a long PH cycle(if you want to call it one - isn't) and proper PCT for it... Years later he has problems still(had to get Gyno surgery as well)... Just my .02 on what you listed(as I've never heard of - and doesn't seem to be real AAS)

[Jackson Pitt]

^^^ PH's are sh*t!... Besides being Hepatoxic PHs cause more damage than good(in every case I've seen or heard about! Had a friend who did a long PH cycle(if you want to call it one - isn't) and proper PCT for it... Years later he has problems still(had to get Gyno surgery as well)... Just my .02 on what you listed(as I've never heard of - and doesn't seem to be real AAS)

Okay, I just need to be truthful because 1) I shouldn't have lied in the first place and 2) I don't have any clue what all those terms mean.

I'm not taking these things. But my husband is and I am worried about him. I didn't think anything about it (because I just assumed it was normal work out stuff like protein and whatever), but the other day he mentioned that they are similar to steroids and to not tell anyone he is taking them. He is showing symptoms of low testosterone (that's what he told me), and I'm wondering if it's because of what these pills are doing to his body.

Sorry I made up a story, I am worried about him and have been googling to try to figure out what this stuff is, but I just can't make sense of it all!

Someone please help?

[qscgugcsq]

Hepatoxic = meaning it can cause.liver damage and if those are mixed with alcohol the effect are highly amplified.

cycle = the period in time when we are ON steroids .

PCT = post cycle therapy , use of other kind of medication to restart our natural testosterone production to normal level

gyno surgery = some Ph and steroids if badly managed can cause fatty tissus to deposite under the nipple called gynomastia... Manboobs is you prefer

sounds like Prohormone ( which is a less efficient more dangerous alternative to steroids)
most prohormone are oral thats why it is often prefered over real injectable steroids.

he his feeling low test symptom cause he his stopping his peoduction without replacing it with injectable testosterone...

I dont know any of these either...

but ask him to suscribe to this website(or take your account) and let him read a few of our stickies and if he is reasonable we will be able to convince him that PHs can and will harm him.

Steroids on the other hand are way safer and more efficient.
but most must be injected. if you are his wife then you can assist him injecting( for the glute it is extremely usefull XD) if he his scared of needle or else...

PH works yes... but they are so dangerous than the pros dont overcomes the cons.

[Jackson Pitt]

Hepatoxic = meaning it can cause.liver damage and if those are mixed with alcohol the effect are highly amplified.

cycle = the period in time when we are ON steroids .

PCT = post cycle therapy , use of other kind of medication to restart our natural testosterone production to normal level

gyno surgery = some Ph and steroids if badly managed can cause fatty tissus to deposite under the nipple called gynomastia... Manboobs is you prefer

sounds like Prohormone ( which is a less efficient more dangerous alternative to steroids)
most prohormone are oral thats why it is often prefered over real injectable steroids.

he his feeling low test symptom cause he his stopping his peoduction without replacing it with injectable testosterone...

I dont know any of these either...

but ask him to suscribe to this website(or take your account) and let him read a few of our stickies and if he is reasonable we will be able to convince him that PHs can and will harm him.

Steroids on the other hand are way safer and more efficient.
but most must be injected. if you are his wife then you can assist him injecting( for the glute it is extremely usefull XD) if he his scared of needle or else...

PH works yes... but they are so dangerous than the pros dont overcomes the cons.

Thank you so much!!! So, if I'm using your acronyms right in the previous poster's answer, and talking about using a proper PCT, does that mean that if he is NOT using proper PCT, his natural testosterone production levels may not go back to normal? Because now that he had told me these aren't your every day supplements and I've asked him why he is taking them, he says that because his testosterone is so low, these are the only thing helping to give him any testosterone at all.

[NACH3]

Okay, I just need to be truthful because 1) I shouldn't have lied in the first place and 2) I don't have any clue what all those terms mean.

I'm not taking these things. But my husband is and I am worried about him. I didn't think anything about it (because I just assumed it was normal work out stuff like protein and whatever), but the other day he mentioned that they are similar to steroids and to not tell anyone he is taking them. He is showing symptoms of low testosterone (that's what he told me), and I'm wondering if it's because of what these pills are doing to his body.

Sorry I made up a story, I am worried about him and have been googling to try to figure out what this stuff is, but I just can't make sense of it all!

Someone please help?

Most importantly is Blood Work... If he's having signs of low T then have him get a full "hormone Panel for Males"... His testosterone may be elevated due to what he's taking(to a degree not like steroid levels)... And try to tell him to stop... Especially w/the sides your explaining... He should stop immediately!

If he's mentioned that he's feeling signs of Low testosterone(have him stop and do his PCT(Post Cycle Therapy - which is supposed to bring back your natural testosterone production(even on these Pro Hormones) IMO they're worse than Steroids(if one knows what they're doing)... If he does not know what this means then have him read the forums stickies that will answer all his ?'s and us members can help him more b/c we don't have the info needed... So it's kinda a guessing game(hence the importance of Blood Work)

With that said pro-hormones are very liver toxic(so he should be using somekind of liver support...

I hope this helps a little but he should come on and give more details... That would help us help him...Good Luck!

[NACH3]

Hepatoxic = meaning it can cause.liver damage and if those are mixed with alcohol the effect are highly amplified.

cycle = the period in time when we are ON steroids .

PCT = post cycle therapy , use of other kind of medication to restart our natural testosterone production to normal level

gyno surgery = some Ph and steroids if badly managed can cause fatty tissus to deposite under the nipple called gynomastia... Manboobs is you prefer

sounds like Prohormone ( which is a less efficient more dangerous alternative to steroids)
most prohormone are oral thats why it is often prefered over real injectable steroids.

he his feeling low test symptom cause he his stopping his peoduction without replacing it with injectable testosterone...

I dont know any of these either...

but ask him to suscribe to this website(or take your account) and let him read a few of our stickies and if he is reasonable we will be able to convince him that PHs can and will harm him.

Steroids on the other hand are way safer and more efficient.
but most must be injected. if you are his wife then you can assist him injecting( for the glute it is extremely usefull XD) if he his scared of needle or else...

PH works yes... but they are so dangerous than the pros dont overcomes the cons.

Thanks gscg! Good explanation... I was writing when you were... So I included BW as she said he was having signs of low T as well...

[Jackson Pitt]

Most importantly is Blood Work... If he's having signs of low T then have him get a full "hormone Panel for Males"... His testosterone may be elevated due to what he's taking(to a degree not like steroid levels)... And try to tell him to stop... Especially w/the sides your explaining... He should stop immediately!

If he's mentioned that he's feeling signs of Low testosterone (have him stop and do his PCT(Post Cycle Therapy - which is supposed to bring back your natural testosterone production(even on these Pro Hormones) IMO they're worse than Steroids (if one knows what they're doing)... If he does not know what this means then have him read the forums stickies that will answer all his ?'s and us members can help him more b/c we don't have the info needed... So it's kinda a guessing game(hence the importance of Blood Work)

With that said pro-hormones are very liver toxic(so he should be using somekind of liver support...

I hope this helps a little but he should come on and give more details... That would help us help him...Good Luck!

Thank you so much, I really appreciate y'all's help! I already have an appointment made for him this Friday for a regular family doctor to have blood work done to test his testosterone. He is the one who first mentioned that he thinks he has low t about 2 weeks ago because he is always tired, feels depressed, low muscle mass and low sex drive :/ so then just a few days ago when he got back on these pills and I found out they are more serious than just regular work out supplements, I began wondering if they are the culprit.

So I can tell the family doc "full hormone panel for men", or does that require a specialist?

[NACH3]

Thank you so much, I really appreciate y'all's help! I already have an appointment made for him this Friday for a regular family doctor to have blood work done to test his testosterone . He is the one who first mentioned that he thinks he has low t about 2 weeks ago because he is always tired, feels depressed, low muscle mass and low sex drive :/ so then just a few days ago when he got back on these pills and I found out they are more serious than just regular work out supplements, I began wondering if they are the culprit.

So I can tell the family doc "full hormone panel for men", or does that require a specialist?

I wouldn't tell his Dr what he's taking... As you can order blood work online...

If your not in MA/NJ/NY/or RI then look up private m d labs . com(all one word)
And you can set it up online print the requisition papers and find the nearest LABCORP around you then if there's a problem have him see an Endocrinologist w/the Blood Work and tell the Doc that he's been feeling off(the symptoms you described)

If a doc knows about steroid use or pro hormones as INS may not be pick up The costs... Good luck!

[Jackson Pitt]

I wouldn't tell his Dr what he's taking... As you can order blood work online...

If your not in MA/NJ/NY/or RI then look up private m d labs . com(all one word)
And you can set it up online print the requisition papers and find the nearest LABCORP around you then if there's a problem have him see an Endocrinologist w/the Blood Work and tell the Doc that he's been feeling off(the symptoms you described)

If a doc knows about steroid use or pro hormones as INS may not be pick up The costs... Good luck!

EXCELLENT information! I had no idea you could order blood work online! What a great community you guys have here! I will definitely recommend this group to him, although he may want to make his own account now that I've put all his business on blast through this account.

[NACH3]

Lol... I'm glad we could help you... And this forum is all about preaching SAFE AAS(Anabolic Andogenic Steroids )Use... As mentioned above its actually safer to inject than to take pills(as injections aren't even comparable to liver toxicity of Orals)... It was smart to look into this after he mentioned his overall well being, and low T symptoms... Hopefully he joins us and there are sections here dedicated to testosterone replacement therapy(where everyone has low T and must be prescribed testosterone for medical reasons(this is worst case scenario but could really change his life for the better if he is indeed duagnosed w/low T!

Just figured I'd let ya know about the forum and its hands down the best one out there!

[Red Bastard]

Does your husband do regular weight workouts? Or, any other forms of regular exercise?

[Jackson Pitt]

Does your husband do regular weight workouts? Or, any other forms of regular exercise?

Yes, he does.