Tren fat burning effects?

**uhit** · 02-20-2015, 06:45 PM

Just wondering how does tren affect fat burn?

To my knowledge diet is the only thing that affects weather we gain or lose weight (calorie surplus and deficit respectively). So how does tren accomplish this feat?

**zempey** · 02-20-2015, 06:52 PM

I don't know how it does it but I cut like crazy on it. I will be doing a summer cycle to get lean but build more muscle using tren at higher doses then I did last summer. It brings out killer shape in me, I can't wait to blast this summer now that I am primed with my winter bulk cycle almost complete.

**uhit** · 02-20-2015, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by zempey

I don't know how it does it but I cut like crazy on it. I will be doing a summer cycle to get lean but build more muscle using tren at higher doses then I did last summer. It brings out killer shape in me, I can't wait to blast this summer now that I am primed with my winter bulk cycle almost complete.

Where you in a caloric surplus or deficit during that cycle?

**JohnM1987** · 02-20-2015, 07:36 PM

A rather unique characteristic of tren is its anti-catabolic abilities. Trenbolone binds with the receptors that interact with glucocorticoid hormones, these being catabolic hormones. By being able to inhibit cortisol and some other catabolic hormones in the body trenbolone is ideal for those users that are attempting to reduce body fat as the compound will help to minimize muscle wasting when running a calorie deficit.

Bodybuilders looking to reduce their body fat also find that trenbolone can help them achieve their goals as well. This ability to help in the reduction of body fat stems from the drug's affinity for binding to the androgen receptors. These androgen receptors are located in, among other places, fat cells. When these androgens bind to the androgen receptors they can affect these cells and increase fat-burning. When this is combined with the fact that trenbolone has a cortisol reducing effect along with the ability to bind to the glucocorticoid receptor, it can be understood why this compound is so highly touted for dieting and the reduction of body fat

**zempey** · 02-20-2015, 07:40 PM

I wasn't counting, but I doubt highly I was in a surplus, I am eating way more now than I did during that cycle.

**dfarre** · 02-21-2015, 12:58 AM

It stops denovolipogenesis in cattle if estradiol is low, maybe it does the same with humans. If it's true you could not gain or maybe even lose fat on a caloric surplus low fat diet.
I don't know if it is, you have to test it.

**mark woods** · 02-21-2015, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by dfarre

It stops denovolipogenesis in cattle if estradiol is low, maybe it does the same with humans. If it's true you could not gain or maybe even lose fat on a caloric surplus low fat diet.
I don't know if it is, you have to test it.

Yes this is what i tought^^^^
I'm running it now eating at maintenance and I'm dropping fat whilst my weight is up a bit so a nice recomp going on

**Docd187123** · 02-21-2015, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by dfarre

It stops denovolipogenesis in cattle if estradiol is low, maybe it does the same with humans. If it's true you could not gain or maybe even lose fat on a caloric surplus low fat diet.
I don't know if it is, you have to test it.

DNL is already low in humans.

**zero955** · 02-21-2015, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by zempey

I don't know how it does it but I cut like crazy on it. I will be doing a summer cycle to get lean but build more muscle using tren at higher doses then I did last summer. It brings out killer shape in me, I can't wait to blast this summer now that I am primed with my winter bulk cycle almost complete.

I'm still working on building my foundation up but I was hoping to start a tren -based cycle in around 6 months. Can you point me in the right direction of where to get good tren online?

**Docd187123** · 02-21-2015, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by zero955

I'm still working on building my foundation up but I was hoping to start a tren-based cycle in around 6 months. Can you point me in the right direction of where to get good tren online?

This isn't a source board and asking for a source is against the rules.

**zero955** · 02-21-2015, 07:25 AM

Is it also against the rules to ask for a source for a source board? I'm not sourcing a source, but if I sourced this source I'd just be sourcing a source for a source of sources, not sourcing an actual source.

**Docd187123** · 02-21-2015, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by zero955

Is it also against the rules to ask for a source for a source board? I'm not sourcing a source, but if I sourced this source I'd just be sourcing a source for a source of sources, not sourcing an actual source.

Purple?

**Bio-Active** · 02-21-2015, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by zero955

I'm still working on building my foundation up but I was hoping to start a tren-based cycle in around 6 months. Can you point me in the right direction of where to get good tren online?

this is clearly sourcing and against the rules

**Bio-Active** · 02-21-2015, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by zero955

Is it also against the rules to ask for a source for a source board? I'm not sourcing a source, but if I sourced this source I'd just be sourcing a source for a source of sources, not sourcing an actual source.

what are you talking about?

**Docd187123** · 02-21-2015, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

what are you talking about?

He trying to be a smart ass

**Bio-Active** · 02-21-2015, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Docd187123

He trying to be a smart ass

right.... I didn't find it funny did you?

**zero955** · 02-21-2015, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Docd187123

He trying to be a smart ass

That was actually a serious question. But yeah, we can just drop it.

**Docd187123** · 02-21-2015, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

right.... I didn't find it funny did you?

No I didn't but maybe a mod will.

**swolehead** · 02-21-2015, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by dfarre

It stops denovolipogenesis in cattle if estradiol is low, maybe it does the same with humans. If it's true you could not gain or maybe even lose fat on a caloric surplus low fat diet.
I don't know if it is, you have to test it.

why do you say low fat diet aND by low fat diet what % of macros do you consider to be low

**uhit** · 02-21-2015, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by swolehead

why do you say low fat diet aND by low fat diet what % of macros do you consider to be low

I think Jason Blaha (not sure on his credibility) said something along the lines of that the only way to get fat on a caloric surplus is through dietary fat as carbs are burnt through thermal effects.
I would find the video, but I'm pretty sure it got taken down as it was on his previous youtube channel.

(Don;t quote me 100%, I'm only stating what I believe I remember)

**swolehead** · 02-21-2015, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by uhit

I think Jason Blaha (not sure on his credibility) said something along the lines of that the only way to get fat on a caloric surplus is through dietary fat as carbs are burnt through thermal effects.
I would find the video, but I'm pretty sure it got taken down as it was on his previous youtube channel.

(Don;t quote me 100%, I'm only stating what I believe I remember)

unless tren does something I don't understand then I wouldn't listen to that guy fat gain is caused by caloric surplus not by fats

**qscgugcsq** · 02-21-2015, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by swolehead

unless tren does something I don't understand then I wouldn't listen to that guy fat gain is caused by caloric surplus not by fats

Tren does burn carbs as thermal.energy, cause it inhibits glycogenesis.

but it is dose dependant obviously 200mg wont make you a shredded monster of muscle if you eat 8000 cals daily...

jason blaha is 100% right on what he says about tren.
but yes fat gain is caused by too much calories...
however it allow more calorie to be eaten without getting fat. if mostly carbs.

like any other androgen tren does increase lipolyse. so you burn more fat. and it increase metabolism.