TAKING TWO CC's OF TEST FOR A YEAR!HELP!!!

**animal1717** · 03-11-2015, 08:56 AM

I've read quite a few articles on this site, have some basic understanding of a cycle and what it does to your body. I was having a discussion with a co worker that is 47 years old. He told me that his doctor has been giving him two ccs of test cyp per week (once a week) for the past year! I know that when you start injecting test your body will shut down its own natural production. I was surprised and didn't know if he can recover from this or he will have to be placed on trt. He said he's never taken time off. Anyone have some advice I can give him besides starting a pct protocol? Or do Yall think this has been going on too long and he will have to be on trt from now on?

**lovbyts** · 03-11-2015, 09:05 AM

It sounds like he is already on trt but hos doctor (like many) has no clue what he is doing and giving him way to much.

If he is not feeling like crap yet he will soon. He needs to have blood work done and cut back to around 150mg per week

**kelkel** · 03-11-2015, 09:12 AM

Blood work and a competent doctor. I can only imagine he's not on an AI so his estrogen must be through the roof.

**Bigjallday** · 03-11-2015, 09:13 AM

If he's 47 that sounds ok to me maybe to high of a dose but at 47 u could be a good candidate for testosterone replacement therapy may be his test levels are super low and if you're going to get a prescription from a doctor they normally do blood work anyways and if he's been on for a full year chances are his testosterone is shut down anyways he's going to be on it for the rest of his life I haven't been off gear in over 6 years and when I do a trt dose I do one shot every 3 or 4 days and that is my off time at least for me that's how I do it and it's worked fine but when I finally decide to stop bodybuilding I will do about 300 milligrams of test a week for the rest of my life and I'm okay with that but that's just my personal decision I wouldn't recommend it for anybody.

**noballs25** · 03-11-2015, 09:15 AM

^^^^ yup. I misplaced my letro while trying to reverse gyno, went to my doc and told him what happened. He insisted I stop the letro as its for breast cancer not gyno and offered to give me a shot of test.

**kelkel** · 03-11-2015, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Bigjallday

if he's been on for a full year chances are his testosterone is shut down anyways

I will do about 300 milligrams of test a week for the rest of my life

It's not a chance his test is shut down. It is shut down.
Curious how you came up with 300mg's a week?

**animal1717** · 03-11-2015, 09:23 AM

Ok thanks guys! Do yall reccomend he lower the doses in the next week to 150mgs/week or go to a dr and have his blood done before this change?

**kelkel** · 03-11-2015, 09:25 AM

BW now then evaluate and titrate.

**lovbyts** · 03-11-2015, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

It's not a chance his test is shut down. It is shut down.
Curious how you came up with 300mg's a week?

Ill let you handle this one.

**animal1717** · 03-11-2015, 09:31 AM

Thanks guys! He's freaking out now and hates his dr haha.

**Mr.BB** · 03-11-2015, 09:35 AM

How much is 2cc's of testosterone ?

**kelkel** · 03-11-2015, 09:36 AM

Getting it from his doc you can assume it's 200 mg's per ml.

**lovbyts** · 03-11-2015, 09:41 AM

Hrt therapy is one of those things you need to find a good specialist for. Going to a GP is like taking your Ferrari to quick tune or jiffy lube.

**animal1717** · 03-11-2015, 09:47 AM

Yeah it's test cyp 200

**Bigjallday** · 03-11-2015, 10:38 AM

I came up with 300 a weak becuz that's what my doctor gives me now for treatment 1.5 ccs a week 200 MG per cc and I should of clarified a little better I'm in contest season so I keep my test high during contest season when I'm off a cycle I go back to my regular testosterone replacement therapy dose and up my anastazole to 1 MG every day vs now I take it twice a week.

**Bigjallday** · 03-11-2015, 10:40 AM

Also I listen to my couch Dave.P. 100% he has trained many pros and he knows what he's doing better then most.

**APIs** · 03-11-2015, 11:39 AM

OP's friend is likely full of crap. No Doc would prescribe 2 CCs weekly unless he wants his license pulled & the DEA paying a visit to his office...

**Bigjallday** · 03-11-2015, 12:04 PM

I get 1.5 a week and I had to beg for that and he didn't want to do it but with my age being considered he was do able to make it happen

**lovbyts** · 03-11-2015, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by APIs

OP's friend is likely full of crap. No Doc would prescribe 2 CCs weekly unless he wants his license pulled & the DEA paying a visit to his office...

Oh I would not bet on it. When it comes to hormone therapy you would be surprised some of the stories I've heard.

**jstone** · 03-12-2015, 03:26 PM

If I was prescribed 400mg per week I would be stashing some away. I dont think I could get my doctor to prescribe that even if I manipulated my blood tests to come back low on 300 a week.

its crazy that you hear of doctors giving 200mg per month, while others will gjve out 400mg per week.

**Bigjallday** · 03-12-2015, 04:07 PM

It's not hard to imagine there a big diffrence between trt and low t treatment trt is replacing what your body would normally be making.

**Bigjallday** · 03-12-2015, 04:08 PM

Kelkel is that your bicep??

**Mp859** · 03-12-2015, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Bigjallday

Kelkel is that your bicep??

No. That is his penis.

**kelkel** · 03-12-2015, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Bigjallday

Kelkel is that your bicep??

Surprisingly yes.

**BigMan65** · 03-12-2015, 04:55 PM

whats your fat shedding secret?

**Bigjallday** · 03-12-2015, 05:28 PM

No offense but it looks like over done synthol

**Mp859** · 03-12-2015, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Bigjallday

No offense but it looks like over done synthol

His penis?

**kelkel** · 03-12-2015, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Bigjallday

No offense but it looks like over done synthol

I do take offense.

Put your glasses on. It's called body building. Synthol? Obviously you don't know what synthol does. Post a pic of YOUR arm big boy. I apologize now if "mines bigger."

**Buster Brown** · 03-12-2015, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bigjallday

No offense but it looks like over done synthol

Are you nuts?????????? That is quite insulting! He looks great and have you ever scene arms pumped with synthol?, not even close.

**NACH3** · 03-12-2015, 08:24 PM

^^^ This and what Kel said BBing bud! I'm not even gonna go there! But extremely disrespectful!

Face palm! Lol

**Bigjallday** · 03-12-2015, 09:01 PM

Have I ever seen arms pumped with synthol? Look at every pro body builder on a professional stage today and if u don't think that's a fact then your ignorant to what is really going on. Maybe it just looks weird in the pic but the shape looks off and that's normally from synthol and direspectful? all I have to say to that is stop kissing A this is a body building forum not the baby sitters club weather I'm new or not or weather he's a moderator or not I'm not a kiss a and I call what I see no matter who it is and that's 100 I compete allot and competing is all about symmetry and body builders hide what they do in terms of gear and everything else more then any kind of drug user its a proven fact.

**NACH3** · 03-12-2015, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Bigjallday

Have I ever seen arms pumped with synthol? Look at every pro body builder on a professional stage today and if u don't think that's a fact then your ignorant to what is really going on. Maybe it just looks weird in the pic but the shape looks off and that's normally from synthol and direspectful? all I have to say to that is stop kissing A this is a body building forum not the baby sitters club weather I'm new or not or weather he's a moderator or not I'm not a kiss a and I call what I see no matter who it is and that's 100 I compete allot and competing is all about symmetry and body builders hide what they do in terms of gear and everything else more then any kind of drug user its a proven fact.

KISS ASS? I'm stating the obvious! It's not even even close!

And I'm being 100?!

And it's RESPECT... I'm younger and he's more knowledgable! Plain and simple... Someone to look up to and learn from! Among many other members on this forum!

**reporich** · 03-12-2015, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bigjallday

Have I ever seen arms pumped with synthol? Look at every pro body builder on a professional stage today and if u don't think that's a fact then your ignorant to what is really going on. Maybe it just looks weird in the pic but the shape looks off and that's normally from synthol and direspectful? all I have to say to that is stop kissing A this is a body building forum not the baby sitters club weather I'm new or not or weather he's a moderator or not I'm not a kiss a and I call what I see no matter who it is and that's 100 I compete allot and competing is all about symmetry and body builders hide what they do in terms of gear and everything else more then any kind of drug user its a proven fact.

Post your picture or stfu.

**Bigjallday** · 03-12-2015, 10:09 PM

Keep in mind this pic is on the spot in my bath room in the middle of of my bulk and zero pump what so ever. My wife is on the lap top with all my show pics so if u want some of those let me kno 19 3/4 inches

**Buster Brown** · 03-12-2015, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bigjallday

Keep in mind this pic is on the spot in my bath room in the middle of of my bulk and zero pump what so ever. My wife is on the lap top with all my show pics so if u want some of those let me kno 19 3/4 inches

Show some respect to our senior members please. He may be saving your ass someday......that's all.

**reporich** · 03-12-2015, 10:22 PM

Looks good, I see the synthol look you were talking about...

**Bigjallday** · 03-12-2015, 10:26 PM

I do respect him 100% and apalogize if I came off disrespectful I'm on a nasty one right now no excuse but it's the truth. I'm on here for fun nothing more nothing less and to maybe help a couple people out I don't feal I will ever need any advice thats why I have a professional trainer but I do apalogize for coming off cross my bad.

**Bigjallday** · 03-12-2015, 10:28 PM

Synthol?don't make me laugh.

**tectime** · 03-12-2015, 10:30 PM

Boom and up jumped a big one ! Don't you hate that when it happens. Always got to watch who you call out ! Good job on the arms dude! But dude Kel is a real good guy and I don't say they about many on these forums but from everything I've seen he's a for real too not just another computer think they are ( and there's a shitload of them). But I sure like to see when people can fire back with a pic like that.