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03-24-2015, 01:49 PM #1
Are you ready for steroids????
If you cannot answer these questions you have some more reading to do. The good news is that this site has all of this information available and with a little effort you can find it. Please consider understanding these questions and know all the answers before taking steroids . Good luck!
What does PCT stand for?
What does PCT do; or why is it used?
When should I start PCT and what should it include?
What is HCG , and why is it used?
Why should beginners not use several compounds in their first cycle?
If tren is so great, why shouldn't everyone use it on their first cycle?
Why should I clean my injection site?
Why do people aspirate ?
What is wrong with oral only steroid cycles?
Why shouldn't I start steroids when I am young?
What does eod mean? (heard this one today!)
What size needles and length of needles do I need to inject with?
Why should I have everything I need before I start a cycle?
If I want to inject two ml of testosterone why doesn't anyone know what I mean?
Why should I consider losing weight before taking steroids if I am over 15% bf?
Why should I consider gaining muscle without steroids if I am skinny?
What does diet have to do with steroids or gaining and retaining muscle mass?
My buddy said he has real HGH for sale; why shouldn't I believe him?
This is just a few questions to start this off that I think newbies should know. If you are considering getting into steroids I would suggest having a good understanding of the questions that pertain to your situation. To all my fellow members, please feel free to add more questions that you have all answered over and over and would like to include. Or include links to posts that offer the answers.
Thanks!!!!Last edited by Oki-Des; 03-24-2015 at 01:52 PM.
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03-24-2015, 02:02 PM #2New Member
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Only after lurking around here for a while was I finally able to answer all of those. Couple questions though?
1. CDC says aspirating is not necessary since injection sites commonly used such as outer quad, delt, gluteal are not near major blood vessels. However, everywhere I've read here says it's necessary. Is it because smaller blood vessels could be affected? Another reason?
2. OK I admit - I am not sure about the last one. I have seen Somatropin for sale. Is that not HGH?
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03-24-2015, 02:15 PM #3
Ha ha, some of them are just newbie questions. Anyone who has done tren and injected into a blood vessel wishes they had aspirated first. It does not really hurt you, but it makes you cough like crazy and you feel like you are going to die for a few minutes. But good on you for pointing it out. Also, most newbies only inject in the glutes, which is where I suggest to aspirate .
Also, about the HGH, it is probably the most faked because of what people are willing to pay for it. Of course not all HGH is fake, but since not buying it directly from a pharmacy I have never had the same results. Therefore it is simply something to be aware of when buying it. Thanks for the response!
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Nice post Oki!!! This should be part of a newb starter pack or something...
Just wanted to add that aspirating is vital in any area.... As test or other injectables can also reach the lungs causing "the cough"
Awesome job Oki!!!
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03-24-2015, 02:31 PM #5
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03-24-2015, 02:41 PM #6MONITOR
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03-24-2015, 06:01 PM #7
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03-24-2015, 06:13 PM #8
Good info and hopefully some newbies take your advice
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03-24-2015, 08:10 PM #9
Because the CDC is talking about flu shots and other vacinations, not hormones that if you nick a vein and some gets in it can cause a adverse respiratory reaction for several minutes or longer.
No, Somatropin is not HGH but it is a good booster for natural HGH production.
Nice job Oki-Des
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03-24-2015, 08:22 PM #10
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03-24-2015, 09:47 PM #12Associate Member
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People should have to take this test before they can post! Great post Okie
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03-24-2015, 09:49 PM #13
Great post. I would like to read up more on the bf% issue and why you should get down that low first. Can somebody direct me there or post the link. I am new to the forum and still figuring my way around. Thanks y'all.
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03-24-2015, 11:11 PM #14
Can I take this test open-notes style? Lol, good thread, hopefully it catches the eye of many.
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03-25-2015, 12:43 AM #15
Start by reading here #3
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
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03-26-2015, 04:20 PM #16
Hello! I'm gonna attempt it for fun without looking up any answers. Been reading through Austinite's articles and all the other vet's articles for a little while now. I really want to have a positive experience so I have been trying to get a good grasp of what it takes to cycle in a healthy manner. I'm not going to be able to name scientific names and other stuff but hopefully I can answer most of the questions in a basic way. Probably not good enough to explain to someone else yet, but hopefully I'm getting to the point where I will be able to complete a cycle successfully. I'm still fuzzy on whether or not my HCG is going to come in powder or pre-mixed ( didn't specify when ordered ) so I still have to zero in on Austinites article about HCG and get the math and the amounts down ( about reconstitution ). If I do have to reconstitute can I get something from rite-aid or cvs so I don't have to make another order from ar-r ? I'm going to order pins anyways now that they are back in stock, so should I just go ahead and order something in case I have to reconstitute?
1) Post Cycle Therapy
2) Post cycle therapy meds such as tamoxifen and clomid are used to restart natural production of testosterone levels because introducing exogenous test into the body will tell your testes to stop producing natural levels. So while one is on a cycle you won't be producing on your own because the body is very smart and efficient. They are to be used together and not on there own for best results.
3)Pct should be started once your body is rid of testosterone and for 4 weeks. Which in my case will be 14 days. BW should be done after to make sure hormone levels went back to normal.
4) HCG is extracted from pregnant women's urine. It Helps to keep the testes stimulated during shutdown so they are able to come back to life more easily. This should be taken DURING cycle and not after, contrary to many's beliefs.
5)As tempting as it seems, Beginner's should not use other compounds in their first cycle because stacking is complicated and you don't know how your body is going to react to many substances. It's best to introduce one at a time and always start with Testosterone. Once you know how your body reacts to that and you have your AI and PCT dosages dialed ( to make sure estrogen etc... is managed well ) you will be able to introduce another compound on your next cycle, because you will know how to keep hormone levels in check because you will know how your body reacts to certain substances. I like the analogy that Austinite used about the exotic food.
6) I haven't done any reading on Tren because it isn't mentioned in My First Cycle Sticky. I've around the board that its potent though?
7) To prevent infection, staph lives on the surface of the skin and can kill you.
8) Aspirating is to make sure that you don't inject into a vein.
9) Oral only cycles are a horrible idea because you will become lethargic and can get depression, your nuts will shrink. Oral steroids are still suppressive to hpta. Which mean you may damage your body's natural ability to produce test and become a TRT much sooner in life than you normally would have if you would have just did some simple research. Lastly in my opinion, if you're not dedicated enough to pin a little needle ( that wouldn't even hurt a kitten....well maybe it could a little, but that's beside the point. ) than you probably aren't dedicated enough to meal plan, sleep plenty, refrain from alcohol, cigarettes, other rec drugs, donate blood and monitor levels with blood work. Not to mention you probably don't have a great training foundation to build off of either. Which means you really aren't dedicated at all to your health and fitness or physique for that matter and you just want a quick fix. The biggest thing I don't understand with other beginners like myself is if " test and orals combined " gives great results... why not start with a test base and add later! Synergy is badass.
10) You shouldn't start steroids when you're young because your test levels are peaking or haven't peaked yet. Which means you can make awesome gains without any extra help. The biggest reason is that you're not done growing and you could stunt (?) your growth or not get as big as you would naturally. Let your bones finish fusing first, 27 and after is a safe range. Also, Permanent damage to Hpta can occur.
11) Every Other Day
12) 1 inch and 23 gauge for pinning, bigger gauge for pulling. Don't cross contaminate and don't pin with the same needle you pulled with. Slow and steady.
13) You should have everything you need before you start because you may not always be able to get the supplies you need later. It hurt when I made ar-r order and ordered 3 months worth of stane among everything else. But I knew it was the right thing to do and won't have to worry about shipping delays or anything else.
14) 200mg? Might need some help on this one
15) You shouldn't cycle steroids at high BF because the more fat you carry the higher your test to estro conversion will be. Which will put you at a higher risk for estrogen related side effects.
16) If you're too skinny when you cycle you will put yourself at risk for injury because muscle strengthens faster than tendons and ligaments.
17) If you are not feeding your body properly than you will not be able to gain or retain your muscle mass. TDEE should be calculated and macros should be adjusted according to what you are trying to achieve... cut, maintain, gain. I still need to do some research on whether or not diet should be changed while on cycle. I know marcus diaries mentions carb priming or cycling, but haven't dug into it yet.
18) Real deal HGH is expensive and hard to come by.
Look forward to being on here.Last edited by blakegains; 03-26-2015 at 08:10 PM.
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03-26-2015, 08:14 PM #17
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
Touches on it in there
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03-26-2015, 11:37 PM #18
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03-27-2015, 12:32 AM #19Originally Posted by lovbyts
Wait what? Somatropin is HGH itself ?
http://www.steroid.com/Somatropin.php
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03-27-2015, 04:39 AM #21
This test needs to be multiple choice.
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03-27-2015, 10:29 AM #22
Its synthetic tho correct? I don't think there's like a hcg farm some where where pregnant women stand around filling up 55gallon drums and get force fed water lol
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03-27-2015, 10:37 AM #23
It is produced from cultures of genetically modified cells using recombinant DNA technology. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding, I had to wikipedia that shit!Last edited by Oki-Des; 03-27-2015 at 10:43 AM.
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03-27-2015, 10:42 AM #24
Good job! About the 2ml question- Many people come on here talking about an amount of testosterone to take, but do not mention how strong the testosterone they have is. Therefore, when someone says 2ml, it could be 100mg per ml or 400mg per ml and telling us an amount does not offer enough information to answer.
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Lmao... Yeah it doesn't work like that... From what I gathered there is two types(uHCG - urine derived like Pregnyl, & rHCG like Ovidrel - BOTH are made up of alpha & beta subunits of LH/FSH/TSH but mimick LH Production to help kickstart recovery faster when used on cycle)... Basically both are as effective(as there seems to be more of this Ovidrel in the states) I've never used any other than uHCG(urine derived) like HUCOG(that still needs reconstituting) or Pregnyl!
I didn't know there was even a difference.... But they seem to do the same!
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