Advice please

**awim93** · 04-07-2015, 03:13 PM

about to start cycle of test cypionate and everyone keeps telling me to run nothing but this and a pct. shouldn't I run some kind of cycle assist and a milk thistle?

**Mr.BB** · 04-07-2015, 03:55 PM

What are your stats, age, training experience, etc?

**awim93** · 04-07-2015, 04:03 PM

Sorry about that. I am 21 5'9 175 prbly 15 % body fat. Goal is to get to 205 and be solid as a rock don't have much experience using injections but oral pro hormones (mdrol) worked wonders for me

**Mr.BB** · 04-07-2015, 04:07 PM

At 21 years old you are at your lifes peak of your own natural testosterone production, taking steroids will halt and completely shut down this natural production, and then you have 70% more chances of not recovering completely your testosterone once the natural production restarts.
It is dumb not to wait till your hpta mature IMO.

Read this:

The young and Steroids

***Cycles going wrong for the young***

**awim93** · 04-07-2015, 04:15 PM

Ok well if not then what can I do I have trained my ass off and feel like I am at a plateau..

**Mr.BB** · 04-07-2015, 04:32 PM

Ussually comes down to diet, how many cals are you hitting and whats the macro?

**awim93** · 04-07-2015, 04:42 PM

Right at 3500 cal and I'm not sure what macro is sorry. I can't make myself eat more then that. That's enough to make me feel like I'm going to explode but I know that's not near what some guys take in

**mikegilbert1986** · 04-07-2015, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by awim93

Right at 3500 cal and I'm not sure what macro is sorry. I can't make myself eat more then that. That's enough to make me feel like I'm going to explode but I know that's not near what some guys take in

if your not gaining strength/weight then you need more. so you say you cant eat more so you must not want to get bigger.. thats like say ohh i cant lift no more this is to heavy im gonna stick with liften panzy weight.. MAN UP SON!!

**awim93** · 04-07-2015, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by mikegilbert1986

if your not gaining strength/weight then you need more. so you say you cant eat more so you must not want to get bigger.. thats like say ohh i cant lift no more this is to heavy im gonna stick with liften panzy weight.. MAN UP SON!!

I didn't get on here for someone to tell me to man up.i do pretty damn good for my size. And am continuing to grow just not as fast as I'd like

**mikegilbert1986** · 04-07-2015, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by awim93

I didn't get on here for someone to tell me to man up.i do pretty damn good for my size. And am continuing to grow just not as fast as I'd like

wo wo chill bro..
ooo hey guys im ready to cycle but hey do i need to protect my liver from a injectable. haha ooo dam

**awim93** · 04-07-2015, 06:01 PM

All I was asking is what I was told. So **** off. Guys like you are the reason people frown upon things bc you act like a dick about it. Why not try and give some real advice. To help people learn instead of being a prick. I bet you are the guy who makes fun of new comers at the gym that don't lift as much weight as you also. Get a ****ing hobby that doesn't include being an ass to people trying to learn a little bit about somethin

**kelkel** · 04-07-2015, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by mikegilbert1986

wo wo chill bro..
ooo hey guys im ready to cycle but hey do i need to protect my liver from a injectable. haha ooo dam

Ease up mike.

**kelkel** · 04-07-2015, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.BB

At 21 years old you are at your lifes peak of your own natural testosterone production, taking steroids will halt and completely shut down this natural production, and then you have 70% more chances of not recovering completely your testosterone once the natural production restarts.
It is dumb not to wait till your hpta mature IMO.

Read this:

The young and Steroids

***Cycles going wrong for the young***

This ^^^ is the correct advice awim. Fine tune what you're doing diet wise. Visit Marcus's Diary for some great HIT Training tips that may be what you need to break through your plateau. But above all, be patient. Building muscle takes time and you've got many years ahead of you.

**awim93** · 04-07-2015, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

This ^^^ is the correct advice awim. Fine tune what you're doing diet wise. Visit Marcus's Diary for some great HIT Training tips that may be what you need to break through your plateau. But above all, be patient. Building muscle takes time and you've got many years ahead of you.

I appreciate it. I know. It is a very long process but I want the size now haha. Thanks a lot buddy for the advice

**mikegilbert1986** · 04-07-2015, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by awim93

All I was asking is what I was told. So **** off. Guys like you are the reason people frown upon things bc you act like a dick about it. Why not try and give some real advice. To help people learn instead of being a prick. I bet you are the guy who makes fun of new comers at the gym that don't lift as much weight as you also. Get a ****ing hobby that doesn't include being an ass to people trying to learn a little bit about somethin

you should chill back and read educate your self with the basics. you can come ask questions and hope your getting a educated answer. or you can research and educate your self with facts. I'm sure you'll run into a tun more questions if u just hop right into cycling.