After cycle BW, What is wrong with my Lh, E2, Prolactin? Can you help me?

**cybervtec** · 04-08-2015, 06:01 PM

Hi,

After i make my last cycle:

5 weeks of Test Prop 100mg EOd
5 weeks of Oxandrolone 60 mg Ed
300 ui of pregnyl, from day 3 at day 30, every 4 days
Arimidex : start only at day 30 until day 40 ( on cycle) - 0.25mg
Proviron : 100mg ED from day 1 to the end of cycle

I did my pct:
Nolva: day 1 to 10 - 40 mg, day 11 to 30 - 20 mg
Clomid: day 1 to 10 - 100 mg, day 11 to 30 50 mg

My stats are:
Age 35
Weight 192,2 lb
Height 6'1"
Bf 13%
Experience 10 years

I make my blodwoork, now, after pct and i have a few problems:

Prolactine: 14.04ng/ml (2.10 - 17.70)
LH: 31,0mui/ml (1,5 - 9,3)
FSH: 14,2 mui/ml (1,4 - 18,1)
Test Total: 801 ( 280 - 1100)
Test free: 15.50 pg/ml (8,8 - 27,0)
Estradiol E2:58 pg/ml (11-44)

I feel with low libido and weak erections. somedays i can get erections but can get orgasm

What can i do to improve this, and make my values be in scale?

I´m wondering take the folow:
0.25 mg of caber every 4 days ( to decrease the prolactine level)
0.25 mg of arimidex every 4 days
10 mg of nolvadex ED.

How long should i do this? Is this the right option?
Please help!

Thanks a lot

**kelkel** · 04-08-2015, 07:42 PM

How long after pct was over did you pull this blood work?

**cybervtec** · 04-09-2015, 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

How long after pct was over did you pull this blood work?

I take the blood test exactly in the last day of pct.

What do you think about doing this more 2 weeks? Or have other idea?

0.25 mg of caber every 4 days ( to decrease the prolactine level)
0.25 mg of arimidex every 4 days
10 mg of nolvadex ED.

**aussie made** · 04-09-2015, 04:00 AM

You need to wait at least 6 weeks after pct.

**NACH3** · 04-09-2015, 04:23 AM

I will add your E2,is elevated probly causing libido issues your having...

Though you didn't wait 6-8,wks after PCT - besides your E2 being elevated you bounced back pretty quickly.... What were your test(total/free) b4 cycle??

**cybervtec** · 04-09-2015, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by aussie made

You need to wait at least 6 weeks after pct.

Thanks for your help.

I will wait 4 weeks and make another bw.

Originally Posted by NACH3

I will add your E2,is elevated probly causing libido issues your having...

Though you didn't wait 6-8,wks after PCT - besides your E2 being elevated you bounced back pretty quickly.... What were your test(total/free) b4 cycle??

I will wait, and avoid the idea of using arimidex .

How about the use of caber to low a little the prolactine? The values are in high although inside the high limit.

My test B4 cycle are:
Test total : testoesteron - 977

Isnt it normal to have more libido after pct? My libido are very down... Even with another girlfriend

**Mr.BB** · 04-09-2015, 06:21 AM

Wow before cycle you had 977 test @ age 35, thats great!

Humm 5 weeks cycle is too short, I wouldnt risk your natural test just for 5 weeks :s

Its normal low libido after PCT, you need to wait 6-8 weeks to get BW.

**cybervtec** · 04-09-2015, 07:00 AM

I´m lost...

Should i take or not the arimidex ?

My libido is making me crazy

**NACH3** · 04-09-2015, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by cybervtec

I´m lost...

Should i take or not the arimidex ?

My libido is making me crazy

Did you cycle Tren or nandrolone (both are progestins)... I still wouldn't realky worry about your prolac it's in range... Your E2 is a tad high - I don't know if I would use AI at this time... I would not

What BB stated is dead nuts on! And your test levels are good for after PCT aswell... It's normal to have libido issues during PCT(your trying to re-start your natty test while it's been shut down for your cycle... Be patient and you will be fine, pull BW again in 6-8 wks

**Jboonk** · 04-09-2015, 07:50 AM

Armidex eod

**cybervtec** · 04-09-2015, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Jboonk

Armidex eod

Until when? How do I know that me estrogens are at right level?

**NACH3** · 04-09-2015, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by cybervtec

Until when? How do I know that me estrogens are at right level?

If your done w/PCT I don't know if I would run any AI! I never have... It's not supposed to be used during PCT... In the past it's been done(& some still do it) this is why mid cycle BW is so important to see where your levels are and if any adjustments need to be made...

Only SERMs for PCT(clomid & Nolvadex ) as they work in synergy together! Hence why both need to be run....

**cybervtec** · 04-09-2015, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Did you cycle Tren or nandrolone (both are progestins)... I still wouldn't realky worry about your prolac it's in range... Your E2 is a tad high - I don't know if I would use AI at this time... I would not

What BB stated is dead nuts on! And your test levels are good for after PCT aswell... It's normal to have libido issues during PCT(your trying to re-start your natty test while it's been shut down for your cycle... Be patient and you will be fine, pull BW again in 6-8 wks

Only propionate and oxandrolne

Thanks for the help!

**kelkel** · 04-09-2015, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by cybervtec

I take the blood test exactly in the last day of pct.

What do you think about doing this more 2 weeks? Or have other idea?

0.25 mg of caber every 4 days ( to decrease the prolactine level)
0.25 mg of arimidex every 4 days
10 mg of nolvadex ED.

Ok, the guys already straightened you out about when to get BW.
That said, your LH & FSH are hyper-stimulated when on serms / pct, which is why your LH & FSH values are abnormally high. These will normalize in time, hence 8 weeks post pct for BW...
Your estrogen level is high but that's not a sensitive panel geared to men, therefore it will give an elevated reading. Meaning the proper E2 Sens panel could be much lower.
Prolactin still in range but if having libido issues (which is quite normal after a cycle) you could run maybe .25 twice per week for a while to see if it helps. Won't hurt you at all.
Get some cialis as well.
Do not take more nolva.

**cybervtec** · 04-09-2015, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Ok, the guys already straightened you out about when to get BW.
That said, your LH & FSH are hyper-stimulated when on serms / pct, which is why your LH & FSH values are abnormally high. These will normalize in time, hence 8 weeks post pct for BW...
Your estrogen level is high but that's not a sensitive panel geared to men, therefore it will give an elevated reading. Meaning the proper E2 Sens panel could be much lower.
Prolactin still in range but if having libido issues (which is quite normal after a cycle) you could run maybe .25 twice per week for a while to see if it helps. Won't hurt you at all.
Get some cialis as well.
Do not take more nolva.

Thanks a lot.

I will do 2x week caber to see if helps.