Is it true that by just using test your chances of heart attack increase by 34%?

[thehor]

I came across this article and this is just trt dose so I can only imagine the bodybuilding dosages. 34% sounds like to much. here is the article.

Is Testosterone Replacement Safe for My Heart?

[lovbyts]

LOL, NO. Yes if you have an underlying hear condition and start working out or training harder there is more of a chance you will experience the symptoms where if you were just a regular Joe sitting on the couch you would not find out until you were older.

Everything has it's risks associated with it but I would rather find out sooner than later. Honestly if you are worried about it at all then complain about some chest pains and get your doctor/insurance to do a Stress echocardiogram. IMO this is the best way to go. Doing a simple EKG or just the echocardiogram only shows you part of the picture. The Stress echocardiogram shows everything. This is what I did a couple of years back.

[InternalFire]

McDonalds and second hand smoke pose more risks than that. Thats why doc supervision is necessity.

[lovbyts]

Oh lets not go down the 2nd hand smoke trail. I'm not a smoker and I do think cigarettes stink but the whole 2nd hand smoke causing cancer thing is about as real as the ozone being full of holes due to aerosol or global warming.

[InternalFire]

so much real as the "study" linked in the OP post, get it?

[lovbyts]

Yeah I know, I could read the sarcasm but there is a LOT of truth to it when it comes to McDonald's...

[thehor]

Yea I am just concerned do to the fact that I have 2 kids and a wife. and I have already done 3 cycles so I am positive I passed my genetic potential so I doubt its worth continuing.

[lovbyts]

Ive got 2 kids and on wife #3. Yeah I'm a glutton for punishment, hard learner. I should have had a heart attack or stroke long time ago.

[thehor]

Why a heart attack? What happened?

[lovbyts]

Why a heart attack? What happened?

I mean I should due to all the stress from being married 3x.

[thehor]

Hahah yea that would do it!

[InternalFire]

me to in the same situation with two kids and herself I wonder now if this specific combo leads to AAS use? LOL no kidding, there's truth in everything, and so does theres untruth in there too, everybody's so unique even same medicine doesnt apply the same to everyone, you could be lucky enough doing a study and random-pick 1000 people and none would show side effects etc etc, or all of them will, but then the other study would show vice versa. The studies being published most times dont even do proper investigation, and not even talking the studies there being published by novice students just to get spotlight, using sources of already published one before. Its so much BS regards all this, you got to live trough it to find out

[Simon1972]

wasnt there study saying that testosterone helped cardiovscular health....?......looks like the current study balances everything out- all is good in the world- id rather be buff if its all the same .

...and remember- testosterone lowers your chances of developing diabetes, osteo perosis , dementia and alzheimers....

just cut out the mcdonalds while taking test and all is hunky dory!

[Oki-Des]

Oh lets not go down the 2nd hand smoke trail. I'm not a smoker and I do think cigarettes stink but the whole 2nd hand smoke causing cancer thing is about as real as the ozone being full of holes due to aerosol or global warming.

You have it all wrong Lovbyts! Global warming is not just from aerosol cans, it is also from cows farting! Lol.

[bsh]

Peer reviewed publications are the only doc I'll consider valid... And then even u have to take it with a grain of salt....

[kelkel]

Ridiculous article.

[Lemonada8]

i think its good article... but not for the usage here. It outlines several things people even considering a cycle should be doing just to be healthy.

[kelkel]

i think its good article... but not for the usage here. It outlines several things people even considering a cycle should be doing just to be healthy.

Yes to the last part, just not to the testosterone -heart connection. It was Morgantaler that debunked the last flawed study claiming the extraordinarily bad side effects of TRT. Underlying conditions do exist as we all know but imho, most problems arise with poorly educated doctors and sub-par treatment. Doc's have to treat the entire patient, not just their T level. Cycling as you said, different animal entirely.

You done school yet btw?

[Lemonada8]

on the home stretch 1 more year haha

[-Horus-]

I mean I should due to all the stress from being married 3x.

lord.... here I'm thinking 2 would be the end of me lol... KEEP ON PUSHING!! HA! : )

[Juced_porkchop]

Any look at the overwhelming research showing low test causing issues, WAY more and WAY more often. also the study is based off what? there are alot of factors to take in.

[Lee_1978]

I've had two ECG tests within the last year in preparation for my cycle, but after reading various on line reports I'm not sure if it's been worth it. It appears that without any pre existing heart issues, these tests can prove inconclusive and misleading.

[kelkel]

on the home stretch 1 more year haha

All worth it.