Ralox ineffective?

**seriouslifter** · 01-30-2015, 04:24 PM

I started using ralox at 60mg daily almost a month ago and honestly I havent seen any improvements on this gyno. I have had this gyno for awhile now years so maybe it settled and its perm now? I remember I tried in the past 2 years ago letro which completely dried me out and shut me down since no estrogen. So I read articles and studies on ralox and suppose to remove gyno up to 90% success rate. Now I know I am only a month in and it takes a long time, how long max should I run ralox for? 9 months? I am taking vitamin d and extra calcium. When will I see improvement?

**956Vette** · 01-30-2015, 05:11 PM

Hang in there, it can be a long term struggle to battle down your symptoms. It's very difficult to find that balance, sucks when you tank and suffer from a lack of estrogen. In my experience I needed steady low dosages of AI along with experimenting with various SERMS (ralx was one of which I found to be effective, tamox is the tried and true...). Sadly, I would estimate results may take the better part of the year, you're on par. Keep up the good work, prayers your way serious

**Ashop** · 01-30-2015, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by seriouslifter

I started using ralox at 60mg daily almost a month ago and honestly I havent seen any improvements on this gyno. I have had this gyno for awhile now years so maybe it settled and its perm now? I remember I tried in the past 2 years ago letro which completely dried me out and shut me down since no estrogen. So I read articles and studies on ralox and suppose to remove gyno up to 90% success rate. Now I know I am only a month in and it takes a long time, how long max should I run ralox for? 9 months? I am taking vitamin d and extra calcium. When will I see improvement?

I haven't used it myself. We have seen such good results with LETRO and traditional NOLVA
just never have made the switch over to RALOX although we have studied it in depth.

**seriouslifter** · 01-31-2015, 08:15 AM

how long should I use this for until giving up in blasting this gyno I have behind one nip? Currently have no sides using 60mg ralox.

**956Vette** · 01-31-2015, 09:14 AM

How large and/or irritating is your situation serious?

**seriouslifter** · 01-31-2015, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

How large and/or irritating is your situation serious?

i would say if i lift up my arm overhead and feel around its around a quarter size.

**seriouslifter** · 02-02-2015, 08:39 PM

bumpppp when do people really see when this works for gyno? how much longer can i stay on?

**mikegilbert1986** · 02-02-2015, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by seriouslifter

I started using ralox at 60mg daily almost a month ago and honestly I havent seen any improvements on this gyno. I have had this gyno for awhile now years so maybe it settled and its perm now? I remember I tried in the past 2 years ago letro which completely dried me out and shut me down since no estrogen. So I read articles and studies on ralox and suppose to remove gyno up to 90% success rate. Now I know I am only a month in and it takes a long time, how long max should I run ralox for? 9 months? I am taking vitamin d and extra calcium. When will I see improvement?

are they hard lumps your trying to get rid of? do they hurt? is your bodyfat high?

**lovbyts** · 02-02-2015, 11:45 PM

Ive only used it once, for a couple of weeks due some sensitivity and small lumps and they went away quickly. FYI it was from AR-R

**zempey** · 02-03-2015, 06:52 AM

Stick it out bro, it is a LONG ride. I have been using stane at high doses(25-31.25mg ed) along with 40mg nolva for weeks now and I am seeing a very small change, but it is in the right direction at least. From what I have been told, it can take months, even a year. Mine were the size of an egg yolk at the worst, now the swelling has gone down and they are a bit smaller, especially the right side, the left has always been the worst. Just keep on your protocol and don't stress it, definitely don't fuk with them, keep training and try not to think about it.

**tballz** · 02-03-2015, 07:36 AM

Like the others are saysing...give it time.

Ralox worked great for me.

**seriouslifter** · 02-21-2015, 10:07 AM

Ive been on 60mg daily for 2 months now. I read a post by austinite saying that due to bone loss, recommend 60mg now for 4-6 weeks and then 30mg until gone. Did people switch to that protocol? Should I still blast for 7-9 months with 60mg daily or is that too long? People said they got results after 8 weeks at 60mg and they stopped. I havent

**Buster Brown** · 02-21-2015, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by seriouslifter

Ive been on 60mg daily for 2 months now. I read a post by austinite saying that due to bone loss, recommend 60mg now for 4-6 weeks and then 30mg until gone. Did people switch to that protocol? Should I still blast for 7-9 months with 60mg daily or is that too long? People said they got results after 8 weeks at 60mg and they stopped. I havent

So your saying that you haven't noticed any change after 60 days at all?

**seriouslifter** · 02-21-2015, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

So your saying that you haven't noticed any change after 60 days at all?

maybe a little, its so hard to tell because I am not fully lean, I just know I have this quarter size lump behind my nip. its not pea size.

**jimmyinkedup** · 02-21-2015, 11:50 AM

Just for reference gyno studies using ralox or tamox run for 6 months minimum. It takes time.

**seriouslifter** · 02-22-2015, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

Just for reference gyno studies using ralox or tamox run for 6 months minimum. It takes time.

so i guess i will stay on 60mg for 4 more months then.

**Buster Brown** · 02-22-2015, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by seriouslifter

so i guess i will stay on 60mg for 4 more months then.

Give it more time. I know you are frustrated and I sympathise (have had two nasty on cycle flare-ups) but this is your best option at this point.

**kelkel** · 02-22-2015, 06:01 PM

Take a look at Andractim Gel as well to use along with your serm. It's a topical DHT that you rub on the affected area several times per day. I know guys who've had great results with it.

**Buster Brown** · 02-22-2015, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE="kelkel;7007048"]Take a look at Andractim Gel as well to use along with your serm. It's a topical DHT that you rub on the affected area several times per day. I know guys who've had great results with it.[/QUOTE
Hey Kel.....is Andractim gel available in the US?

**zempey** · 02-22-2015, 06:08 PM

Is that an over the counter supp?

**kelkel** · 02-22-2015, 06:15 PM

It's from Australia (if I recall correctly) and can be ordered on-line.

**seriouslifter** · 04-19-2015, 07:55 AM

should i really try Andractim Gel? Should i go to doctor for gyno condition? Wouldnt they maybe prescribe same stuff... ralox or nolv and so on. Its got to be 4 months I have been on this or so. Honestly havent seen any difference with it getting smaller. Maybe I need to drop body fat to make it less noticable. should i stop ralox? Obviously the last restort that i will never do is under the knife for this.