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    adding an oral in bulking cycle too late?

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    Could I add an oral for 4 weeks or so to help bulk up before the end? I'm on week 9....

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    Yes, it is called back loading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    Yes, it is called back loading.
    Awesome. What would be a the most effective oral, I don't have any experience with them and would like some input...

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    Quote Originally Posted by airprosonoma View Post
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    Could I add an oral for 4 weeks or so to help bulk up before the end? I'm on week 9....

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    No disrespect but with those stats u need to learn how to eat.

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    What are your goals? I prefer to backload my orals(or injectables - depending on compound/goals)...

    What were you thinking of running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    What are your goals? I prefer to backload my orals(or injectables - depending on compound/goals)...

    What were you thinking of running?
    Looking to bulk, want to be 225 in the end. I'm at 194. I'm on week 9 of cycle.

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    Wanted to add DECA but my boy said no due to to what I'm on already. Any thoughts ?

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    No disrespect but you dont look like you lift, even more if at week 9 of 1,7grs of steroids per week.

    Steroids are not a shortcut, you need a base of years and proper eating, training and good habits.

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    You have no right to be using gear, you don't look like you've even touched a weight before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    No disrespect but you dont look like you lift, even more if at week 9 of 1,7grs of steroids per week.

    Steroids are not a shortcut, you need a base of years and proper eating, training and good habits.
    I know this. I used to frequent the gym often and then I got into painkillers. I quit using , got in shape and no matter how much I ate I could not get past 170, I dove into this head first I admit but by the time I research everything I felt committed.

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    For what its worth I have learned a lit and gained a lot in the past 9 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airprosonoma View Post
    Wanted to add DECA but my boy said no due to to what I'm on already. Any thoughts ?

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    Adding Deca would be a huge mistake and a waste of money(I thought you said oral)?? Deca needs to be run at 10-12(preferably 12) due to its long acting ester!

    TBH, I would've stuck to no gear until your base was there... But that's not the case, I woukdnt add anything just focus on leaning out a bit(just my humble opinion) GL to you!

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    Its never late for oral....



    ...wait, sorry was thinking of other type of oral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Its never late for oral....

    ...wait, sorry was thinking of other type of oral.
    Haha true enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post

    Adding Deca would be a huge mistake and a waste of money(I thought you said oral)?? Deca needs to be run at 10-12(preferably 12) due to its long acting ester!

    TBH, I would've stuck to no gear until your base was there... But that's not the case, I woukdnt add anything just focus on leaning out a bit(just my humble opinion) GL to you!
    Dbol sorry. Not deca

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    [QUOTE="airprosonoma;7039454"]

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by airprosonoma View Post
    Dbol sorry. Not deca

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    Ok... I'd still hold off and get your diet on track... W/out the proper diet you'll be unhappy w/the results(I don't bloat but thats all diet)... I'm not saying you don't but imo there's alwYs room for improvement(That goes for anyone/everyone - including me)... Always trying to find ways to better everything...
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    I'll take that. Thanks man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airprosonoma View Post
    I'll take that. Thanks man.

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    Our diet section is great! You can post up what you eat or ask ?'s about your own diet, good stuff...

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    No way that's 13%, I'm at 13 and there isn't even a comparison between the 2

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    adding an oral in bulking cycle too late?-forumrunner_20150422_194738.jpg

    More recent. May be the shitty electronic machine at gym 13%

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    Tbh, I would forget the backload for now. There is some truth I'm that your base is a bit lacking and I would guarantee your diet isn't up to snuff. The best thing you can do is get your diet straightened out ASAP. I fear back loading with an estrogenic oral will lead you to some serious problems that you aren't ready for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    Tbh, I would forget the backload for now. There is some truth I'm that your base is a bit lacking and I would guarantee your diet isn't up to snuff. The best thing you can do is get your diet straightened out ASAP. I fear back loading with an estrogenic oral will lead you to some serious problems that you aren't ready for.
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    Isn't there some fat gain expected while bulking?

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    Maybe I am eating too much, because I eat very clean and never anything with added sugars

    Keep in mind. First cycle. When I started 2 months ago I was 170lbs

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    Not eating enough imo, actually slowing your metabolism....

    No one doesn't have to gain fat while bulking(if diet is clean and on point) your fat intake will be minimized while also reducing bf, I'd rather have quality le am muscle gains so I don't need to work so hard on cutting down later.... Just may .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by airprosonoma
    Maybe I am eating too much, because I eat very clean and never anything with added sugars Keep in mind. First cycle. When I started 2 months ago I was 170lbs the chance to be, alive and breathing
    Just judging by your picture you are sorta skinny fat. It's not a knock but I am being truthful. I just wouldn't start adding compounds tbh. Take some time to fill out and get your base more solidified through time in the g and diet. Cycling at where you are at and adding more compounds will do very little in the long run. It's up to you what you do ultimately, just my .02

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    I agree with you guys. After thus cycle I will lay off for a while to gain a solid base and maybe try again later. After going through all this I may just want to go natural until I absolutely can't get anything els out of diet alone. Thanks for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by airprosonoma View Post
    6'1
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    Could I add an oral for 4 weeks or so to help bulk up before the end? I'm on week 9....

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    Yes you can. Have done it before myself many times.

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    how do you feel with that heavy dose of adex dammms

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikegilbert1986 View Post
    how do you feel with that heavy dose of adex dammms

    It's only been 4 days since I started. I used aromasin till this point but always felt funny. It was from a rc company. The adex is pharma. I like it better so far bit I will be lowering that a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by boisebeast View Post
    You have no right to be using gear, you don't look like you've even touched a weight before

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