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    Planning out my next cycle and needed a little advice. Here goes.

    Sustanon 700mgs a week
    Wks 1-12

    Tren E 350mgs a week
    Wks 1-8

    Anadrol 75mg ed
    Wks 1-5

    Arimidex .5 mg eod

    Hcg 500ius
    Wks 11-13

    Caber .25 mg e3d

    Clomid 75/50/25/25
    Wks 14-18

    Nolva 50/25/25/25
    Wks 14-18

    Concerned about the use of hcg and caber. Do these look right? Proper pct?
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    Joco71 is offline Senior Member
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    Why not HCG all the way through cycle?

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    numbere is offline RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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    What is your previous cycle experience?

    Tren is very suppressive, it would be a good idea to use HcG throughout the entire cycle. Caber likely won't necessary if you manage your e2 with dex and BW. There's no need to taper clomid for week 17-18 and you should add another week or 2 of nolva.

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    ^^^ hcg throughout - clomid 100/75/50/50(depending on sides you could do 75/75/50/50) Nolva 40/40/20/20/10/10 I agree w/running Nolva 2 wks longer!

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    Few cycles under my belt now. Never used tren that's why I'm asking. Thanks for the input fellas. So 500ius of hcg daily through my cycle is okay? Is 250ius enough? Will take advice on the pct. Thanks again

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    numbere is offline RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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    No, 250IU of hcg twice a week. If you've never used tren before you should use tren a instead of tren e. That way if you have unwanted sides you can reduce the dosage and see the effect more quickly. Also, you probably don't need to dose the sust that high if you're also using tren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    No, 250IU of hcg twice a week. If you've never used tren before you should use tren a instead of tren e. That way if you have unwanted sides you can reduce the dosage and see the effect more quickly. Also, you probably don't need to dose the sust that high if you're also using tren.
    Thanks a lot, really appreciate all you guys input.

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    The PCT start time for sust, at a moderate dose, should be 18 days.

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    Quick question again. I know orals suck and are mostly temp gains but what do y'all prefer if you had to choose between orals. I just love the quick strength gains.

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