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    Opinions on this stack without ai

    My buddy has been using steriods for a few years now. He is pretty brave and will take chances with it. Heres his current cycle:
    12 week cycle....
    Weeks 1-3 D-Bol 50mg a day
    Weeks 3-12 Sust 250mg and EQ 200mg 2x a week
    He is not using an AI and claims that at our age (22) it is not neccesary. He will begin his pct of clomid and hcg 2 weeks after his last dose.
    Im trying to convince him to use arimidex or something during this cycle. Can hcg act as an AI if used throughout and after the cycle? If using hcg during the cycle AND with pct, should that two weeks between still be drug free? Meaning you will wait 2 weeks before using the hcg again along with the clomid or nolva, etc.

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    His timing is off and he is rather foolish to not run an AI. When he sprouts breast we will see what he thinks. Hcg is not an AI, it is used to help prevent testicular atrophy. His pct should be 21 days after last pin. Hcg should be run on cycle right up until three days prior to pct. An AI such as arimadex should be used at .25 eod right up until pct.
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    Age has nothing to do with AI usage.
    hCG is not an AI.

    Both you and he have much to learn.

    Start by reading the "my first cycle" stickie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Age has nothing to do with AI usage.
    hCG is not an AI.

    Both you and he have much to learn.

    Start by reading the "my first cycle" stickie.
    I am still learning. I have never done steriods and i will continue to lurk this forum for another year or so until i am properly educated. I just want to talk some sense into my friend.

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    My buddy lmfao ok even if it is your buddy still lmfao we get these threads all the time more so at this time of year. Why would YOUR buddy run a oral then at the end of that start test(sus) lol he has a lot to learn but sound you did come to the right place.
    Read this link it has all the information you need if your friend has any more tell him to join up.

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    His timing is off and he is rather foolish to not run an AI. When he sprouts breast we will see what he thinks. Hcg is not an AI, it is used to help prevent testicular atrophy. His pct should be 21 days after last pin. Hcg should be run on cycle right up until three days prior to pct. An AI such as arimadex should be used at .25 eod right up until pct.
    What do you mean his timing is off? Like hes using the products for the wrong amount of time? Im Just trying to learn from this. Thanks

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    Read the link i posted for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    Read the link i posted for you.
    It really is my friend, not me lol. Anyway i did read that thread a few times. Which is what lead me to become concerned that my buddy is not using an ai. I appreciate the help! When i get jammed up myself, i will not make up stories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    He is not using an AI and claims that at our age (22) it is not neccesary.
    Brilliant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce
    What do you mean his timing is off? Like hes using the products for the wrong amount of time? Im Just trying to learn from this. Thanks
    His pct timing is off.....should start 21 days after last pin.

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