Omnas-real or fake??

**giant bill** · 12-12-2001, 12:39 AM

My friend wants to give me some Omnadren 250's. I've taken them before with good results but, recently I've heard alot of bad shit about Omnadren--especially by the Jelfa brand. Does anyone know about this?? The amps look good,ie. fluid seems filled the same in each amp, the printing looks solid and you can't rub anything off. I would appreciate all imput and I'm sorry that I can't post a pic just yet. Thanks.

**bigkev** · 12-12-2001, 12:58 AM

i have heard nothing negative on these bro. but i will keep it bumped for more replys.

i like omna alot.

**atwa** · 12-12-2001, 05:37 AM

ive got some on the ones you are talking about and they are good as gold.

**arthurb999** · 12-12-2001, 08:52 AM

http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5535

Check it out...

OMNADREN - 2 fakes

Old fake has a link around the neck and contains NOTHING, just oíl. It causes painful injection site for a few days after the shot.
New fake - good news, contains 100 mg enantate. It has a point on the neck, just as a original Omnadren, but there is only 100 mg enantate inside. Why? Because as you probably know, JELFA is also producing Prolongatum, stuff with 100 mg enantate in the amps and Prolongatum looks absolutely SAME as Omnadren, only different labels. So, if you change labels, you CAN NOT FIND any difference.

We think, that directly people in JELFA factory are doing this change and because it contains something (100 mg enantate), it is very very hard find this fake version, because with old fake during cycle, you did not feel anything, now you WILL feel something and will be hard to say "this must be only 100 mg, not 250 mg".

The difference between original Omna and fake is the SIZE of the amp, the real one should be 1mm -2mm taller than fake one.

REAL OMNADRENS - 51-52 mm height, oil is 20 mm
FAKE OMNADRENS with line around the neck - 50 mm height, oil is 16 mm
FAKE OMNADRENS with point on the neck - 47-48 mm height, oil is 19 mm

Important!!! If you have originals, as I wrote above, do not be affraid if you receive amps with DIFFERENT COLOR of the point on the neck of the amp. The JELFA company is changing color of the point every aprox. 3 months. The NEWEST one has a GOLD/SILVER point. I can guarantee THIS!

**THE JU-ICE** · 12-12-2001, 12:49 PM

Arthur is absolutely correct. Good post Bro!!!

**giant bill** · 12-14-2001, 12:59 AM

Arthur,
Damn. You're good bro. Thanks for the excellent info on the Omnas. It's funny... I think the ones I got are real, but, not exactly sure. The size of the amps are precisely 51 mm. They have a silver dot on the neck(no link around them), but, the oil seems to be around 19 mm. I've flicked the top about a million times to keep the fluid down... It's just at the 19 mm. mark. What do you think??

**giant bill** · 12-16-2001, 02:48 AM

bump

**Jan** · 12-16-2001, 07:53 AM

If you want to read the source page about fakes in Europe, from which Arthur was quoting, then check this page:

http://www.ifbb.cz/fakes.htm

or

http://www.elitefitness.com/members/jan/

I updated it with last information yesterday. Hope this my page about fakes helps you.

Jan

**arthurb999** · 12-16-2001, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by giant bill
Arthur,
Damn. You're good bro. Thanks for the excellent info on the Omnas. It's funny... I think the ones I got are real, but, not exactly sure. The size of the amps are precisely 51 mm. They have a silver dot on the neck(no link around them), but, the oil seems to be around 19 mm. I've flicked the top about a million times to keep the fluid down... It's just at the 19 mm. mark. What do you think??

I'd say you're all set. How long have you been taking them?

**giant bill** · 12-18-2001, 06:27 PM

Arthur,
Will start soon. Again, you've been a big help and I can't thank you enough. I'm almost positive they're real. Let you know my progress....
Jan,
Thanks for the website page. Looks good.

**planetx** · 12-18-2001, 10:24 PM

Nice page, Jan.....thanks for compiling this stuff and passing along to everyone. Much appreciated and invaluable.

planet

**Your_Moms_Kneepads** · 12-19-2001, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by arthurb999
http://www.anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5535

Check it out...

OMNADREN - 2 fakes

Old fake has a link around the neck and contains NOTHING, just oíl. It causes painful injection site for a few days after the shot
The difference between original Omna and fake is the SIZE of the amp, the real one should be 1mm -2mm taller than fake one.

REAL OMNADRENS - 51-52 mm height, oil is 20 mm
FAKE OMNADRENS with line around the neck - 50 mm height, oil is 16 mm
FAKE OMNADRENS with point on the neck - 47-48 mm height, oil is 19 mm

Important!!! If you have originals, as I wrote above, do not be affraid if you receive amps with DIFFERENT COLOR of the point on the neck of the amp. The JELFA company is changing color of the point every aprox. 3 months. The NEWEST one has a GOLD/SILVER point. I can guarantee THIS!

This is some of the most useful info I have ever gotten. Seriously! You gave a DIRECT method to test out the Omnas.

**Whiteyebrowe** · 01-05-2002, 12:41 PM

i just picked some of these up
mine are just over 5cm.except the dots on the head are white like the label.and they have an extremely small line just under that dot

**Bladerunner** · 01-23-2002, 10:19 AM

@ Giant Bill :

You wrote that you don't be shure if your omna's are origin or fakes, because the fluid ist just 19mm instead of 20mm, exactly like mine omna's.

Q: What do you think now, are yours origin ?

**testonon250** · 01-23-2002, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by giant bill
My friend wants to give me some Omnadren 250's. I've taken them before with good results but, recently I've heard alot of bad shit about Omnadren--especially by the Jelfa brand. Does anyone know about this?? The amps look good,ie. fluid seems filled the same in each amp, the printing looks solid and you can't rub anything off. I would appreciate all imput and I'm sorry that I can't post a pic just yet. Thanks.

JELFA is a polish manufacturer of Omnadren .... they are a lab...in western ;poland........

omnadren is sustanon250........

**Jan** · 01-23-2002, 01:11 PM

Also LOT numbers and EXP date would be useful! If you have it, post it.

Jan

**Mallet** · 01-23-2002, 01:34 PM

Here's some fake's for ya!

**Mallet** · 01-23-2002, 01:35 PM

And another!

**CMF** · 01-23-2002, 01:36 PM

fu*%

i got the ones with the white dot so how many should I inject every week to keep up with the past injections of SUST 500 mg/week??

**BOUNCER** · 01-23-2002, 02:14 PM

Mallet, let me check those pics of your's with this from the Jelfa site.

**testonon250** · 01-23-2002, 07:17 PM

THOSE OMNADRENS IN YOUR PICS ARE ALL RUSSIAN ... THAT IS NOT POLISH WRITTING................

RUSSIANS USE A DIFFERENT ALPHABET.......

RUSSIANS OMNADRENS ARE NOT THE REAL JELFA OMNADRENS ONLY JELFA MADE IN POLAND IS THE REAL OMNADRENS.......

PERIOD..... CASE CLOSED.................

heres the website check them yourself as you can see its polish.

http://www.jelfa.com.pl/
http://www.jelfa.com.pl/

http://www.fp.com.pl/jelfa/

**Mallet** · 01-23-2002, 09:23 PM

Ya the righting scratches off of these babies, I found these floating around last year sometime, a friend bought them and after 6 weeks of 1g a week there were no results not even a little water retention.
So I checked the height and found that they were only 49mm in hieght instead of 52mm.
I keep them for these special ocassions!

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