3rd Cycle_Suggestions please

**Marc81** · 05-15-2015, 08:28 AM

Hi

I am 33 years old 5' 9",190 lbs with 14-15% bodyfat. I have done 2 cycles so far - Test E for 12 weeks & then Susta, Deca & Dbol for 12 weeks.

Looking for suggestions for my 3rd cycle. I want to add some serious mass with this cycle. What should I try - Test Cyp+Anavar +Equipoise .

Diet & workout on the spot.

Critics & Suggestions welcome.

**MR-FQ320** · 05-15-2015, 12:06 PM

What was wrong with sus dec and dbol ?

**NACH3** · 05-15-2015, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Marc81

Hi

I am 33 years old 5' 9",190 lbs with 14-15% bodyfat. I have done 2 cycles so far - Test E for 12 weeks & then Susta, Deca & Dbol for 12 weeks.

Looking for suggestions for my 3rd cycle. I want to add some serious mass with this cycle. What should I try - Test Cyp+Anavar +Equipoise .

Diet & workout on the spot.

Critics & Suggestions welcome.

Try posting a cycle w/all ancillaries and pct AI HCG DA(if running a 19nor) etc!

Serious mass?! Look into just test/Nandrolone (ever try NPP)?? What about test! It's all dictated by your diet/training program!

Also where is your AI/HCG/etc pct? No one is going to lay out a cycle for you(research the compounds your thinking of and post a full cycle layout)!!

**Marc81** · 05-18-2015, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Try posting a cycle w/all ancillaries and pct AI HCG DA(if running a 19nor) etc!

Serious mass?! Look into just test/Nandrolone (ever try NPP)?? What about test! It's all dictated by your diet/training program!

Also where is your AI/HCG/etc pct? No one is going to lay out a cycle for you(research the compounds your thinking of and post a full cycle layout)!!

Thanks for your response. Here is the Cycle:

Wk 1-16 Test E 500 mg/wk
Wk 1-16 Equipoise 600 mg/wk
Wk 1-4 Dbol 50 mg/wk
A-dex 0.25mg EOD

PCT will be
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

I have not used HCG so far. Not even planning at this stage. Goal is to gain solid muscle mass in this cycle. Started working with a coach.

I know..in my last cycle I went up to 750 mg of Susta. But in this one I am keeping it low.

Moreover, when I did Susta, Deca & Dbol , I did not gain as good as compared to Test E cycle only. That was my 2nd cycle so that might be the reason.

Suggestions/critics welcome.

**NACH3** · 05-18-2015, 04:04 PM

Why no Hcg ? If test e was your best cycle then why wouldn't you want to repeat that?! Make sure you pull BW pre mid-to adjust your AI dose etc, post pct 8wk

Everything looks ok, I'd run Nolva at 40/40/20/20(possibly 10 fof 5wks) it's a long cycle making recovery harder... I'd really look into hcg on cycle as it does help w/recovery(your testes are last to come back wiuldnt you want to keep them functioning in cycle & for a better recovery and prevents Teaticular atrophy all while mimicking LH priduction?! Sounds like a win win to me...

**Marc81** · 05-20-2015, 02:58 PM

ok

Here is updated cycle :

Wk 1-16 Test E 500 mg/wk
Wk 1-16 Equipoise 600 mg/wk
Wk 1-4 Beastdrol 30 mg ED
Wk 3-16 HCGenerate as directed
Wk 4-16 hcg 250iu twice a week
Wk 1-16 N2 Guard as directed

PCT will be 4 weeks:
Unleashed as directed for PCT
Forma 5am/5pm
Phytoserms as directed

Is it too much? Does PCT looks ok?

**Joco71** · 05-20-2015, 03:05 PM

PCT should look like this.

Clomid 75/50/50/50

Nolva 40/20/20/20

**Buster Brown** · 05-20-2015, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Marc81

ok Here is updated cycle : Wk 1-16 Test E 500 mg/wk Wk 1-16 Equipoise 600 mg/wk Wk 1-4 Beastdrol 30 mg ED Wk 3-16 HCGenerate as directed Wk 4-16 hcg 250iu twice a week Wk 1-16 N2 Guard as directed PCT will be 4 weeks: Unleashed as directed for PCT Forma 5am/5pm Phytoserms as directed Is it too much? Does PCT looks ok?

That pct is inadequate.....you will recover better with:
Nov@ 40/40/20/20
Clom@ 100/50/50/50

OTC pct meds are a joke and will not be as effective as nolvadex and clomid which are true Serms.

**Joco71** · 05-20-2015, 03:13 PM

Either one of these protocols ^^^^^ will be much better for your recovery. Good Luck.

**Marc81** · 05-20-2015, 03:40 PM

ok, thanks for quick replies. Much appreciated

Is Beastdrol is better than Dbol or should I stick to my original plan of doing Dbol 50 mg ED?

**NACH3** · 05-20-2015, 03:52 PM

I think your overthinking this... Just keep the plan you had thst is what we advised you on...

Make sure you get your ancilleries(ar-R ) at top right) pct as Buster laid out. Those OTC supps are a joke - this is the most important part to your cycle is to recover to your previous status! GL with your cycle!

**Buster Brown** · 05-20-2015, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Marc81

ok, thanks for quick replies. Much appreciated Is Beastdrol is better than Dbol or should I stick to my original plan of doing Dbol 50 mg ED?

I think you will get less sides with dbol then beast drol. I have tried a few of them as kickers and the sides were tough. I don't think you need 50 mgs of dbol. Why not start at 30 mgs a day.....less is more

**Marc81** · 05-21-2015, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

I think you will get less sides with dbol then beast drol. I have tried a few of them as kickers and the sides were tough. I don't think you need 50 mgs of dbol. Why not start at 30 mgs a day.....less is more

Because I did D-Bol 50 mg in my last cycle.

**scotty51312** · 05-21-2015, 10:19 AM

The gear is only about 25% when it comes to adding mass. Diet/training/rest are the other 75% Just saying your last cycle was just fine for mass and would be again