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    bro bull or truth

    Hi im a 43 year old male looking to do a cycle Or so. I also have graves disease And i get test shots every two weeks due to low test.Ive been doing alot of reading on what to use,when,how much but how do you know what to believe And what is bro bull? All how can you somewhat tell if a place is legit when purchasing? If that is possible. It would be great if someone could direct me to some good truthful articles on these subjects. I also have to take in consideration my disease etc.. thank you

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    Read this. It's as current as it gets and cutting edge.

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

    Next, visit the HRT Forum because if you're on HRT and getting shots every two weeks it indicates your doc is pretty clueless regarding administering a proper HRT protocol.
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    ^^^^ Best advice above. Lots of good info in the sticky notes above that should help you straighten things out.

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    man you should be on twice a week - what are you taking and whats the dose?

    is it IM or SUBQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    man you should be on twice a week - what are you taking and whats the dose?

    is it IM or SUBQ?
    i get cypionate every two weeks. only 200(dont recall if its mg or what). get blood tests every like 6 months and im still on the low end of the scale but alot better than i was a year ago. i get the shot cause my free test was basically zero. i was real sluggish, tired,couldn't shed a pound. i was getting the shots only once a month(400mg) but then requested to get it every 15 days. since, i have noticed a difference in moods and tiredness. not so much in anything else. thanks for the replies

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    Quote Originally Posted by jklberry
    i get cypionate every two weeks. only 200(dont recall if its mg or what). get blood tests every like 6 months and im still on the low end of the scale but alot better than i was a year ago. i get the shot cause my free test was basically zero. i was real sluggish, tired,couldn't shed a pound. i was getting the shots only once a month(400mg) but then requested to get it every 15 days. since, i have noticed a difference in moods and tiredness. not so much in anything else. thanks for the replies
    I would want to know how many mgs I was taking. My guess is mgs but my point is if you are going to give advice dot your I's and cross your T's......you just come across as more informed if you do. Just being constructive bro, take care

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    just looked it up online (i can access my results etc.. online from the hospital here) it is 200 mg every two weeks 400 mg a month. that is just for natural replacement by my doc. to be exact this is what my last results were
    6.5 Picogram/ml (Normal)
    Date Dec 22, 2014 03:41 p.m. EST Reference Range5.1 Picogram/ml - 41.5 Picogram/ml Show less info
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    Reference range: AGE MALE 20-50 yrs 5.1-41.5 pg/mL Reference range female: AGE FEMALE Reproductive age: <2.7 pg/mL Post Menopausal: <2.1 pg/mL (was copied from the hospitals webpage under my results)
    sorry for not knowing off hand, as for being informed, i'm not that much. so that is why i asked for truthful articles to read so i can get informed and learn more. not sure i can even do any cycles due to my graves disease. now mind you that is for my free test only. thanks again and sorry

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    Organize another appointment and insist on weekly injections. I'd be bushing for an increase in dosage too. 125mg a week .

    Primoteston is dosed at 250 mg /ml

    You can self inject into your stomach fat if you are confident, but your test levels are rubbish. Your Dr is pathetic and if nothing changes get a new dr

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    thanks for the replies and advice. i did read that article kelkel and it helped. just need to know how graves plays into all of this and also on my test replacement i get. thanks everyone.

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    join the HRT section and get all that worked out there.

    Hormone Replacement Therapy - Low Testosterone Treatment, Anti-Aging

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    What subject?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jklberry View Post
    thanks for the replies and advice. i did read that article kelkel and it helped. just need to know how graves plays into all of this and also on my test replacement i get. thanks everyone.

    I assume your being treated for your graves disease which would help mitigate symptoms. I'm sure you know with graves comes high shbg levels (and estrogen follows shbg) which result in low free T levels. Fast forward to your T protocol. As stated your doc doesn't know hormones, if he did you would not be on a two week protocol. The half life of test is about 5 - 7 days, therefore your shots should be at least once a week. He's dosing you on the terminal life of test. Meaning your levels are crap by the end of the second week. Remember it's free T that's important.

    Assuming the above blood work in post #7 is while on this protocol and you're tested near the end of the two week period, you can see your T level is in the toilet. You need to be on a better protocol. Try 100 mgs per week to start and no doubt you'll feel better. BTW, a better protocol will also help to suppress shbg levels and help with estrogen conversion simply due to less T injected at one time equals less spike in E.

    Not sure I see where graves would inhibit you from doing a cycle. Maybe someone else can chime in on that aspect.
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