3rd cycle using Dbol

[vikingblood]

So I have 4 weeks worth of Dbol and 12 weeks of Sust 250. I want to run the cycle below, i am a little worried about the liver toxicity of Dbol. I haven Dbol once before but only at 10 mg EOD day about 7 years ago and I only ran it for 2 weeks. So will Dbol @ 25mg a day for 4 weeks be something I need to worry about? Cycle listed below. Any advice would be greatly apreciated, want to stay safe while working hard. Thanks guys

Week 1-4
25mg dbol daily
400mg Sust weekly
250iu of HCG with test 2x a week
armidex .25 eod possibly more
Liv52 Daily
4g fish Oil daily

Week 5-12
400mg test E weekly
250 iu hcg 2x a week
armidex .25 eod or more
Liv52 Daily
4g fish Oil daily

PCT
nolva
40/40/40/40

Clomid
100/50/50/50

[vikingblood]

Bump

[PT]

25mgs is a low dose but you will see better results then you did with the 10mg eod which was a waste

[vikingblood]

PT should I still split the dose or just all at once?

[RA]

25 is still a low dose but yeah split it up.

[Back In Black]

4 weeks you will be fine. Add some NAC to your protocol.

[Mr.BB]

You might need to bump AI while on Dbol , be carefull with the e2 management

[vikingblood]

After 1 week of Dbol @ 25MG and Sust 250 @ 500MG a week I had to stop the Dbol. My low back was killing me, it felt horrible when deadlifting, squating, and cleaning. I was thinking of switching it up and using anavar , I have access to Anavar. I dont really want to gain to much weight just strength. I already weight 215# @ 6ft with 13% BF. Let me know what you guys think.

[BulldogMatt]

Ditch the Dbol if you like , though I'm not convinced that it is responsible for your lower back pain.

You might hVe hit a vein or something when jabbing sus, which has short esters too, causing pip. Just my 0.02£

[vikingblood]

What do you think about the anavar or maybe even whinny?

[numbere]

After 1 week of Dbol @ 25MG and Sust 250 @ 500MG a week I had to stop the Dbol. My low back was killing me, it felt horrible when deadlifting, squating, and cleaning. I was thinking of switching it up and using anavar, I have access to Anavar. I dont really want to gain to much weight just strength. I already weight 215# @ 6ft with 13% BF. Let me know what you guys think.

Do you only have this issue only when you squat, deadlift, or clean? Are you taking dbol rite before your workout? Dbol has an active life of about 6-8 hours. Maybe try taking it after your workout on the day you are doing those lifts.

[vikingblood]

I feel it all day just more when lifting, it my back is really achy which it hasnt been before.

[numbere]

I'm surprised you have such an issue when on 25 mg. Seems like dbol just isn't for you, I'm not sure if you would react any better to var. At least it's a good excuse for the old lady to give you a daily back massage lol.