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    Testicular Atrophy?

    I am using the normal beginners cycle with 500IU HCG of course. I still have atrophy. I was under the impression HCG would stop that. Is my HCG bunk?

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    How often are you using the HCG , 2x a week? Its possible it may be bunk. How old is it? Was and is it kept in a refrigerator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts
    How often are you using the HCG, 2x a week? Its possible it may be bunk. How old is it? Was and is it kept in a refrigerator?
    Isn't it Normal to shrink a little even use HCG on test only cycle? I felt my balls shrink the same night I inject test and comes back few hours after blast 250iu HCG

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    Hcg does not prevent atrophy, it mimics LH. Which will make the leydig cells produce test. The volume of your testicles has little to do with natural test production. You can relieve some of your anxiety by testing your hcg with a home pregnancy test from the dollar store.
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    HCG normally will maintain size and function but not in all cases, some still do experience atrophy.

    What dose are you using and its it pharm grade HCG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    How often are you using the HCG, 2x a week? Its possible it may be bunk. How old is it? Was and is it kept in a refrigerator?
    2x a week 250IU per
    I got it with my order of test 4 months ago.
    I did not keep it in the fridge but I did keep it in a cool dry place out of sun light

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Hcg does not prevent atrophy, it mimics LH. Which will make the leydig cells produce test. The volume of your testicles has little to do with natural test production. You can relieve some of your anxiety by testing your hcg with a home pregnancy test from the dollar store.
    just get a test and put a drop or two on it? See if it comes out positive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    HCG normally will maintain size and function but not in all cases, some still do experience atrophy.

    What dose are you using and its it pharm grade HCG?
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    I cant read that so I dont know if it is legit but I got my gear from the same source and the gear is.

    Is it against the rules to ask for a source for pharma grade HCG?

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    With what did you mix your hCG ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    With what did you mix your hCG?
    GOOD point. Did you use the water that came with it??? If you did that's the problem or at least part of it. The water that comes with it is to mix and use ALL the hcg immediately because it go bad fast, in days. You need to buy bacteriostatic water like this.

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    Also you need to keep the un-mixes HCG in the refrigerator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    GOOD point. Did you use the water that came with it??? If you did that's the problem or at least part of it. The water that comes with it is to mix and use ALL the hcg immediately because it go bad fast, in days. You need to buy bacteriostatic water like this.

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    Also you need to keep the un-mixes HCG in the refrigerator.
    I am using the bacteriostatic water but I am unable to keep anything in the fridge.

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    You have to refrigerate it after its been reconstituted or it wont last very long.

    I experience some atrophy even while using hCG , but my transition into pct and recovery is quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalDude View Post
    I am using the bacteriostatic water but I am unable to keep anything in the fridge.
    The water pictured or the water that came with it? They arent the same even though they seem to say the same thing on the label more or less.

    Since you didnt put it in the refrigerator it's probably bad. it only take a day or so at room temp to start to deteriorate and get weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalDude View Post
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    I cant read that so I dont know if it is legit but I got my gear from the same source and the gear is.
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    Looks like Pregnyl to me so yes it's real but the water that comes with it in the box is NOT what you want to use. Get some more HCG and get some bac water but as others say you'll need to refrigerate somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalDude View Post
    just get a test and put a drop or two on it? See if it comes out positive?
    You will probably need more than a drop or two. I used about a dozen or so drops last time I used this method. Like the others said you should get more hcg and bac water. The stuff you have now will probable be good for a week at room temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalDude View Post
    I am using the bacteriostatic water but I am unable to keep anything in the fridge.
    Hide it in the vegetable drawer. Nobody looks there....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Hide it in the vegetable drawer. Nobody looks there....
    What he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    What he said.
    Seriously it works no one ever opens that drawer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Looks like Pregnyl to me so yes it's real but the water that comes with it in the box is NOT what you want to use. Get some more HCG and get some bac water but as others say you'll need to refrigerate somehow.
    I bought extra HCG . I had a bunch sitting in my closet in powder form. It has been there a couple months. Can I reconstitute it and use that? I have bought a small fridge I will keep it in now.

    Also since my other stuff wasn't kept cold have I been injecting water? I have 4 weeks left on my cycle should I start blasting some HCG for the next 6 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormalDude View Post
    I bought extra HCG . I had a bunch sitting in my closet in powder form. It has been there a couple months. Can I reconstitute it and use that? I have bought a small fridge I will keep it in now.

    Yes

    Also since my other stuff wasn't kept cold have I been injecting water? I have 4 weeks left on my cycle should I start blasting some HCG for the next 6 weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    The water pictured or the water that came with it? They arent the same even though they seem to say the same thing on the label more or less.

    Since you didnt put it in the refrigerator it's probably bad. it only take a day or so at room temp to start to deteriorate and get weak.
    A proper scientific study was posted, by a very highly respected Vet, here, sometime in the last few years, that would refute this. Yes, a drop in potency, if unrefrigerated, after reconstitution, but not as much as one is led to believe, over the life of a vial, which, for most of us, is 10 weeks.

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    Here is what I found from a senior member on this board


    hCG can be used for 90 days after reconstituting it. After 90 days, it loses approximately 10% potency per month. You can leave hCG at room temperature for about a week with negligible potency loss. No loss if it's in the early stages after mixing. After 90 days, you would simply increase dose to compensate for the 10% loss per month
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