Testicular Atrophy?

**NormalDude** · 06-15-2015, 12:56 AM

I am using the normal beginners cycle with 500IU HCG of course. I still have atrophy. I was under the impression HCG would stop that. Is my HCG bunk?

**lovbyts** · 06-15-2015, 01:41 AM

How often are you using the HCG , 2x a week? Its possible it may be bunk. How old is it? Was and is it kept in a refrigerator?

**edmondle** · 06-15-2015, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

How often are you using the HCG, 2x a week? Its possible it may be bunk. How old is it? Was and is it kept in a refrigerator?

Isn't it Normal to shrink a little even use HCG on test only cycle? I felt my balls shrink the same night I inject test and comes back few hours after blast 250iu HCG

**numbere** · 06-15-2015, 05:19 AM

Hcg does not prevent atrophy, it mimics LH. Which will make the leydig cells produce test. The volume of your testicles has little to do with natural test production. You can relieve some of your anxiety by testing your hcg with a home pregnancy test from the dollar store.

**marcus300** · 06-15-2015, 05:41 AM

HCG normally will maintain size and function but not in all cases, some still do experience atrophy.

What dose are you using and its it pharm grade HCG?

**NormalDude** · 06-15-2015, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

How often are you using the HCG, 2x a week? Its possible it may be bunk. How old is it? Was and is it kept in a refrigerator?

2x a week 250IU per
I got it with my order of test 4 months ago.
I did not keep it in the fridge but I did keep it in a cool dry place out of sun light

**NormalDude** · 06-15-2015, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by numbere

Hcg does not prevent atrophy, it mimics LH. Which will make the leydig cells produce test. The volume of your testicles has little to do with natural test production. You can relieve some of your anxiety by testing your hcg with a home pregnancy test from the dollar store.

just get a test and put a drop or two on it? See if it comes out positive?

**NormalDude** · 06-15-2015, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

HCG normally will maintain size and function but not in all cases, some still do experience atrophy.

What dose are you using and its it pharm grade HCG?

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I cant read that so I dont know if it is legit but I got my gear from the same source and the gear is.

Is it against the rules to ask for a source for pharma grade HCG?

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 06-15-2015, 07:23 PM

With what did you mix your hCG ?

**lovbyts** · 06-15-2015, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

With what did you mix your hCG?

GOOD point. Did you use the water that came with it??? If you did that's the problem or at least part of it. The water that comes with it is to mix and use ALL the hcg immediately because it go bad fast, in days. You need to buy bacteriostatic water like this.

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Also you need to keep the un-mixes HCG in the refrigerator.

**NormalDude** · 06-16-2015, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

GOOD point. Did you use the water that came with it??? If you did that's the problem or at least part of it. The water that comes with it is to mix and use ALL the hcg immediately because it go bad fast, in days. You need to buy bacteriostatic water like this.

Also you need to keep the un-mixes HCG in the refrigerator.

I am using the bacteriostatic water but I am unable to keep anything in the fridge.

**DrewZ** · 06-16-2015, 12:15 AM

You have to refrigerate it after its been reconstituted or it wont last very long.

I experience some atrophy even while using hCG , but my transition into pct and recovery is quick.

**lovbyts** · 06-16-2015, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by NormalDude

I am using the bacteriostatic water but I am unable to keep anything in the fridge.

The water pictured or the water that came with it? They arent the same even though they seem to say the same thing on the label more or less.

Since you didnt put it in the refrigerator it's probably bad. it only take a day or so at room temp to start to deteriorate and get weak.

**Back In Black** · 06-16-2015, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by NormalDude

I cant read that so I dont know if it is legit but I got my gear from the same source and the gear is.
?

Looks like Pregnyl to me so yes it's real but the water that comes with it in the box is NOT what you want to use. Get some more HCG and get some bac water but as others say you'll need to refrigerate somehow.

**numbere** · 06-16-2015, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by NormalDude

just get a test and put a drop or two on it? See if it comes out positive?

You will probably need more than a drop or two. I used about a dozen or so drops last time I used this method. Like the others said you should get more hcg and bac water. The stuff you have now will probable be good for a week at room temp.

**kelkel** · 06-16-2015, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by NormalDude

I am using the bacteriostatic water but I am unable to keep anything in the fridge.

Hide it in the vegetable drawer. Nobody looks there....

**lovbyts** · 06-16-2015, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Hide it in the vegetable drawer. Nobody looks there....

What he said.

**Joco71** · 06-16-2015, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

What he said.

Seriously it works no one ever opens that drawer.

**NormalDude** · 06-16-2015, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Looks like Pregnyl to me so yes it's real but the water that comes with it in the box is NOT what you want to use. Get some more HCG and get some bac water but as others say you'll need to refrigerate somehow.

I bought extra HCG . I had a bunch sitting in my closet in powder form. It has been there a couple months. Can I reconstitute it and use that? I have bought a small fridge I will keep it in now.

Also since my other stuff wasn't kept cold have I been injecting water? I have 4 weeks left on my cycle should I start blasting some HCG for the next 6 weeks?

**kelkel** · 06-16-2015, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by NormalDude

I bought extra HCG . I had a bunch sitting in my closet in powder form. It has been there a couple months. Can I reconstitute it and use that? I have bought a small fridge I will keep it in now.

Yes

Also since my other stuff wasn't kept cold have I been injecting water? I have 4 weeks left on my cycle should I start blasting some HCG for the next 6 weeks?

Don't blast it. Run it normally.

**Red Bastard** · 06-16-2015, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

The water pictured or the water that came with it? They arent the same even though they seem to say the same thing on the label more or less.

Since you didnt put it in the refrigerator it's probably bad. it only take a day or so at room temp to start to deteriorate and get weak.

A proper scientific study was posted, by a very highly respected Vet, here, sometime in the last few years, that would refute this. Yes, a drop in potency, if unrefrigerated, after reconstitution, but not as much as one is led to believe, over the life of a vial, which, for most of us, is 10 weeks.

**NormalDude** · 06-16-2015, 02:44 PM

Here is what I found from a senior member on this board

hCG can be used for 90 days after reconstituting it. After 90 days, it loses approximately 10% potency per month. You can leave hCG at room temperature for about a week with negligible potency loss. No loss if it's in the early stages after mixing. After 90 days, you would simply increase dose to compensate for the 10% loss per month