I do realize have a first cycle of tren A and Dbol is crazy but I've made up my mind and I've already ordered it. I'm looking to do a 12 week cycle, I just need some dosage advice. Thank you for any help
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I do realize have a first cycle of tren A and Dbol is crazy but I've made up my mind and I've already ordered it. I'm looking to do a 12 week cycle, I just need some dosage advice. Thank you for any help
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Being 16 years old you are not allowed on this site.
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I'm just asking for a mature response as I'm being mature, I just need some advice that's all not breaking any rules. I see no issue with my request. BTW 5'10 198lbsOriginally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog
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A mature response is stop being a tool and don't cycle. There is no way to run that right at any age. I'm 52/and would never do that.
Your balls have barely dropped and now you are going to make them useless. You are being 100% stupid.
Your not even smart enough to see YES you are breaking rules because your under 18.
No one mature would run this cycle or any at you are.
Last edited by lovbyts; 06-16-2015 at 05:28 PM.
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I have a full beard 5'10 198 I'm done growing, but my balls have barely dropped? I'm advanced for my age but that's besides the point, I came here for advice on my cycle and so far both of you have been useless
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Oh a beard, that changes everything. Yeah typical immature logic. You have no idea the amount of damage you are going to do and I'm 100% serious.
Because it's not what you want to hear does not make it useless.
I guarantee you can find someone to show you how to tie a proper noose so you can hang yourself or bow to mainstream heroin but would that make it right?
What you are asking is not far off.
Last edited by lovbyts; 06-16-2015 at 05:33 PM.
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All I'm saying is I'm aware I'm only 16 but my body is advanced and I'm making the decision to do this. If you could explain rather than just call me stupid and immature that would be really helpful
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No one here no matter how advanced will run a tren and dbol cycle.
Your balls will shut down. Your dick won't work. Can I make it more simple? There is a lot more reason also. See those simple things 99.9% of us know here you didn't thus you are immature saying you have made up your mind and trying to reason it out.
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I'd call it lack of knowledge rather than immaturity. Thanks for the help anyway.
Knowledgeable Member
You will be banned soon. You can still read and learn you just can't post until 18.
Start reading all the sticky notes in red at the top of each forum section.
Start with the young and steroids and it will explain a lot of the science on how its going to damage you for life.
Knowledgeable Member
No its immaturity when you join a forum and start out saying you have made up your mind and this is what you are going to do .
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Beard does not mean you're fully developed hormonally. If you do this cycle and then your hormones don't recover (VERY GOOD CHANCE) you'll have the testosterone of a 10 year old girl and won't be able to keep any gains for the rest of your life...You're going about things the wrong way..You're also too young for the site...Please listen to Lovbyts he is a very knowledgeable member and i'm sure some years down the road you'll be thanking him if you decide not to do this because you're not financially stable enough or mature enough to be able to deal with the adverse effects of steroid use at your age nor is your body ready..
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So maybe you could've suggested a certain dosage or maybe different steroids ... You don't have to look at my age and just jump to conclusions that I'm a little undeveloped boy with no brain cells
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With the research I've done I thought the testosterone comes back once off cycle?
Knowledgeable Member
No reason to jump to conclusions, you spelled it out.
I'm on mobile so I can't post links right now but hopefully other members will and if you are married at all you will read them and take it to heart and not run this or any cycle for several years.
If you decide to not listen then no one is to blame but yourself because you will do damage even if you don't realize it for 5 or 10/years. Your HPTA will not recover 100%. You will fuse your growth plates prematurely. I bet you don't even know about these risks and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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Not if you're toying with your hormones at an age where they're still developing. That is why 25 years old is reccomended because that is when there is a good chance you're fully developed but STILL there are plenty of cases where 25 year olds have done 1 small cycle of testosterone for 10-12 weeks and have NEVER RECOVERED this is the game we play when we cycle and if you cannot be financially stable to pay money every month to replace your testosterone or to get the bloods done before and after cycles etc you have no busniess doing steroids in the first place.
It's a very delicate time for your hormones for they haven't even peaked yet. You can make GREAT gains right now i promise you with your hormone levels. Bodybuilding is a marathon and gains come in MONTHS not in weeks. diet and training section would be PERFECT for you and they will take the time and mould something specifically for you. Everyone works out in the gym who enjoys it but what seperates alot of the guys is a GOOD DIET is a HUGE part of bodybuilding..At 16 i'm sure you KNOW that you don't have a vast amount of knowledge on how to truely train till failure and to eat the right foods and ENOUGH of the right foods for your goals..You can still use supplementation at your age BCAA's, Creatine, Protein that will all help a little bit but mainly HARD TRAINING, REST, DIET and CONSISTENCY are whats gonna get you the results and these slabs of meat you'll put on WITHOUT steroids at your age you'll be able to KEEP because you EARNED them. You can hold onto alot more muscle right now than alot of 40-50 year old guys can because of your hormonal levels please take advantage of it and don't **** yourself up...
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LoL. See, that's what I mean. If that was the case 50% or more guys would not be on HRT/trt
New Member
I gotcha guys. Thanks for the help sorry for the dumb post.
Anabolic Member
I know that you are probably frustrated to the point you are not going to listen to anyone. But, please read about HPTA. This is the part of your body that is not matured yet. It does not matter if you have a beard or believe that you are mature. This is something that naturally is not developed until you are older, and what you risk by taking steroids at your age.
I know that you think that because you already ordered something that you need to take it. But, you are truly setting yourself up for some life long problems. Tren is not even for humans. Of course seasoned steroid users do it, but not until they have done several cycles to make sure they can handle the side effects, before jumping onto the strongest stuff on the planet. Tren is used to beef up cattle for god sake. Because these animals are then slaughtered for their meat, their only purpose to humans to provide more food. We do not care what happens to the bulls, and in turn how it effects them mentally. You are considering something that not only could screw you up for life, but also cause you to do something stupid and end up in prison.
I would personally rather you screw yourself up physically for life than to end up in jail, but if that happens I do hope you remember that there were a few people who tried to steer you in another direction in hopes you will do the right thing for yourself and your future.
Banned
No problem..Don't be one of those young guys that wants to take the easy way out..It never works for them..Earn your muscle now and build a good base get your knowledge up about nutrition and i promise by your 20's youll look 10x better than all of the clowns your age that started gear and are ON GEAR at that time.. And when you're old enough to make an educated decision at mid 20's you'll have a great base to work with and enough knowledge to make the most out of the cycle..But that's far down the road..You should be being a kid right now lol..Good luck
Anabolic Member
Glad to see you are on the right path. I was typing as a few more posts were made.
Knowledgeable Member
Please read the logs I told you about.
Don't just write this off and decide to do it because it's serous. We see far to many kids every day asking how to fix themselves from cycles a lot more mild than yours. It would be a mistake for anyone to run this unless they were a monk and already had their balls removed. Seriously.
Junior Member
I'm 20 and did a single test cycle. I can barley get a semi and not even slightly aroused, what makes you think someone 4 years younger in the most critcal parts of puberty's effects would be? I would do anything to go back and not have done it. It may be too late for me but not you. You have one life no gains in the world will be worth what will happen to you based on those compounds. I know its hard I was just 16 not too long ago but ur an idiot, just try to accept this fact because you'll realize in a few years how stupid u were anyways. Just don't do iy
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I appreciate all the feedback Im not doing it. Just curious.. How do you have sex then..
VET
I didn't read any other posts - as I already know what they have said!
Listen despite being yoyr done growing in height(which you may not be - your sure not done growing in width) shit youve got baby fat still at 16! And I'm not joking - your body comp will change significantly w/hard work and a good diet!
Your body is pumping w/natty test! Did you even plan to run test?! The Ebdocrine system is vast and very in depth - it's said by Endos no male shiuld cycle until 25 b/c of the chance to have an un matured HPTA is more common when younger!
Look man this is very serios - not to mention your jumping to Tren and d-Bol - I've never run those compounds yet - b/c I know how important it is cycle safely - I've added one compound at each cycle - so I know what's causinf my side effects not to mention dialing in your AI(E2)! Your way outta your league and we are trying not to see you(as every day we have new KIDS asking why they're fvked?! Don't be that dude! Not to mention w/a great diet(which at 16 im sure can improve - we all can) so that w/a good training program(you haven't even figured out what's worked out best for you - I just figured out that a certain type of training(HIT) is for me im 31!
See ehat im sayin - I thought nothing would happen TO ME... I've died 2x(in an accident - to many surgeries to list - and have low t rtc etc ) ask anyone who has lived with suppressed testosterone and we'd switch places w/you in a heart beat - I bring this up b/c no doubt you'll be shutting yourself down b4 yiur HPTA matures w/the most suppressing compiunds out there!! You probly will not bounce back! That's not something any of us want to see! We get nothing out of telling you these FACTS... And stories daily of kids-teens cycling and really fvkin themselves up - you want to have kids someday(I did/do but may not happen) that's reality brother - you want to sacrifice your long/short term health for some gains you can get w/diet and training hard - this is a lifestyle - but one you need not to indulge in yet - we're not saying don't juice - just not now - you've got yrs of growing -
Stick around and learn something - you'll be thanking us all in a few wks if you read what we told you to read - great diet section and great training section - along w/all you need to know when your older! Think!
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I'm glad you made that decision - while I was writing! I thought 641 would tell his story - you've saved a lot of kids this far 641! Great job! Keep paying it forward
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Either he doesn't or with the help of Viagra or cialis. Can you imagine being 17 or 18 on a date with a hot girl and she wants to get it on and you have to tell her to wait until you take a pill and give it time to kick in? Do you think you will be on date #2?
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Oh I've already had a few encounters with not getting an erection and it's pretty awkward especially with big mouth high school girls. So I think I'm already ****ed with that part.
Productive Member
Bahahaha good luck.. Ai? Hcg? Test? 12wk tren? Pct planned out yet?
VET
Don't resort to this now at your age... If you can't get an erection find the problem... But to say f it and cycle it's not worth the permanent damage(what if you just have performance anxiety or something psychological - your brain will give you symptoms if you think about it(anything)too much...
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I think it's definitely that because it only happens right before the action
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Honestly I should be promoting guys like you to go ahead and run cycles like this because of the situations like you mentioned above with the girls makes it easier for me to do this.
And by making sure my hormones are where they need to be I am also able to do this... and Yes I really did all 3 at the same time.
See what you will be missing out on if you continue down this road and mess yourself up beyond repair.
Last edited by lovbyts; 06-17-2015 at 01:23 AM.
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So when you run cycles then have off time, how is it that your testosterone remains level enough to do this stuff? It seems like all the steroids are enough to do that shit to your balls...Honestly I should be promoting guys like you to go ahead and run cycles like this because of the situations like you mentioned above with the girls makes it easier for me to do this.
And by making sure my hormones are where they need to be I am also able to do this... and Yes I really did all 3 at the same time.
See what you will be missing out on if you continue down this road and mess yourself up beyond repair.
Knowledgeable Member
For most people who do it right yes you have to have off times. On time + PCT = off time. Example
12 week cycle +2 weeks wait time + 4 week PCT = 18 weeks off minimum and blood work is always best before another cycle so you really know if you are recovered or not.
That is what a PCT is for, to get your hormones working properly again so you can go play as much as you normally would. This is nothing new for me, I always had a high libido. My 1st wife liked girls also and would bring one or two home ever so often for us to play with.
In my case due to multiple head and body traumas and a life threatening illness my testosterone was shot before I was 40 but I didn't know anything about it until 45 learning from this site. Zero steroid use before then.
Even those of us who are on TRT when we do decide to run a cycle we also take the same amount of time off and go back down to therapeutic doses so our test levels are back to a mid/normal level. We dont need to do a PCT because our test system is shut down 100% permanently so there is nothing to restart.
Some people (kids) get the bright idea that they want to get on HRT so they can get testosterone via health insurance so they try to crash their natural test and go see a doctor. This is a BAD bad idea for many reason #1 you do NOT want to have to be pinning yourself for the next 30 or 40 years if you dont have to. You cant guarantee you will always have insurance. It's a LOT more complicated than just taking test, it's similar to being on cycle but a lot lower doses. It takes about 1yr or more to get your levels dialed in and your doctor will want to do blood draws ever 3 months or less to check your levels.
Just giving you a heads up in case you thing of that. It's not a new idea and not a good idea.
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The odds of regaining natural hormone production post PCT are dramatically increased when one is older, their HPG axis is fully developed, and they test as a cycle base. The fact that you are young and are debating doing a cycle without test is a recipe for disaster.
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I'm still envious brother
Honestly I should be promoting guys like you to go ahead and run cycles like this because of the situations like you mentioned above with the girls makes it easier for me to do this.
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And by making sure my hormones are where they need to be I am also able to do this... and Yes I really did all 3 at the same time.
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See what you will be missing out on if you continue down this road and mess yourself up beyond repair.
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The LEGEND lolHonestly I should be promoting guys like you to go ahead and run cycles like this because of the situations like you mentioned above with the girls makes it easier for me to do this.
And by making sure my hormones are where they need to be I am also able to do this... and Yes I really did all 3 at the same time.
See what you will be missing out on if you continue down this road and mess yourself up beyond repair.
Anabolic Member
16YO using steroids is an extremely stupid idea.
No matter your level of maturity(which is not high if you still wanna go this path)
No matter your physics
No matter you dedication
No matter you knowledge.
16YO will cause long term health issue...
risk are simply too.high, to make any gains worth it...
And it is impossible fornyou too have reached the best phtsic you can naturaly at that age.. it is just not doable no matter how dedicated youve been and no matter for how long.
Youve just started to make gainsif you keep training and eating right youll gain better naturally than most of us that are on gear.
There is no point in using at your age.
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I'm a 21 year old who is on TRT atm, never cycled , but was depressed and haven't seen any gains in the gym so i tested for the low T and there it was. Am i Happy now? Yes , feeling better than ever , but you see there are a few problems...i have to pin for the next 60 years ( i plan to live long rofl ) every 2.5 months (nebido) , and it costs A LOT. You don't wanna be on my spot for at least 10 years more, so just listen to the advice the guys gave you .
If your training/diet is on spot, and you still think you aren't making any progress , I'd suggest draw bloods and see how your total T and free T lvls are doing.
Good Luck , i hope you changed your mind for good
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Lol three escorts ? Not legendary statues
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