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    third cycle...BULKING AND CUTTING..read please

    hey guys,
    this is basically my third cycle which i will be starting soon. my first one was me doing

    1ml of test E every monday and friday for 10 weeks
    anavar from week 4-10
    HGH genotropin from week 1-16 every day 4IU
    Clen 2 weeks on/off

    i currently weigh at 78KGs and my height is around 5'7. My body fat percentage is 13.5% but before my cycle i was 24.5%

    MY SECOND CYCLE was

    week 1-12 test e 1ml (every monday and friday)
    week 1-12 EQ 1ml (every monday and friday
    week 6-12 anavar 50mg every day

    it worked amazing, as i got the results i expected on a second cycle which was good lean muscle and cut. now, for my THIRD cycle, please dont spazz or flip and start raging about it being stupid, its just a rough draft of what im thinking of doing as a 3rd cycle which will involve bulking and cutting at the end so please give opinions.



    EQ TEST E NANDROTEST DAINABOL WINSTROL PRIMO ANAVAR
    week 1 2 ml 1 ml 1 ml 20 mgs (every day)
    week 2 2 ml 1 ml 1 ml 20 mgs (every day)
    week 3 2 ml 1 ml 1 ml 20 mgs (every day)
    week 4 2 ml 1 ml 1 ml 30 mgs (every day)
    week 5 2 ml 1 ml 1 ml 30 mgs (every day) 3 ml
    week 6 2 ml 1 ml 1 ml 30 mgs (every day) 3 ml
    week 7 2 ml 2 ml 50 mgs every day 4 ml 50 mgs (every day)
    week 8 2 ml 2 ml 50 mgs every day 4 ml 50 mgs (every day)
    week 9 2 ml 2 ml 50 mgs every day 4 ml 50 mgs (every day)
    week 10 2 ml 2 ml 50 mgs every day 4 ml 70 mgs (every day)
    week 11 2 ml 2 ml 50 mgs every day 3 ml 70 mgs (every day)
    week 12 2 ml 2 ml 50 mgs every day 3 ml 70 mgs (every day)



    to explain this, NANDRO test is basically 250 test E and 150 deca. Im not planning on getting HUGEEEEE and loaded with water so thats why i decided to do 1 shot of nandro and one test e so in a week, i would have injected 500mgs of test e and 150 of deca. Im planning on getting a bit big adding water weight and whatever but after the 6th week so start cutting it down and getting a bit dry. Tell me what you guys think?

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    sorry if the data isnt clear

    okay so for some reason the data above is messed up so il basically write out what the course is

    week 1-6: TEST E (1 ml)
    week 1-6: NANDROTEST (1 ml)
    week 1-12: EQ
    week 1-6: Dainabol (20 mgs first 3 weeks the 30 mgs)
    week 7-12: test E (2ml)
    week 7-12: winstrol (50 mgs every day)
    week 5-12: primo (3-4ml)
    week 7-12: anavar (50 mgs then increasing to 70)

    ALSO KEEP IN MIND the winstrol im using are tablets not injection. and that i started primo on week 5 because it should be run for a long time
    Last edited by malgoof; 06-17-2015 at 07:50 PM.

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    No mention of AI or hcg or pct . what's your plan.

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    Malgoof,

    Please talk in mgs and not mls.
    Mgs/week for injectables and mgs/day for orals.

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    i got that covered but for this, im just talking about the steroids stack itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Malgoof,

    Please talk in mgs and not mls.
    Mgs/week for injectables and mgs/day for orals.

    well the test e is 300mgs
    the eq is 250
    winstrol tabs are 50 mgs
    anavar is 50 mgs
    primo is 200
    nandro is 400

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    The last thing you eant to do is bulk then cut it is just silly. Why not just get your tdee's sorted and run a test deca for your third. The one you have proposed is just too messy to much and the var,primo, will most likely be fake.
    Your nandro test say you wanted to up/drop the deca well you can't do this without upping/droping the test i know you are also running test e.

    What about AI,HCG,PCT, and prolactin control ?? More is not better in this game never think like that food is very very important as i said tdee's then set a goal keep it simple.
    Have a think read up ask as many Q as you like then post your proposed cycle then we can help you out.

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    Only 7 compounds? Sure you can't fit any more in?

    How old are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    Only 7 compounds? Sure you can't fit any more in? How old are you?
    25 according to profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    The last thing you eant to do is bulk then cut it is just silly. Why not just get your tdee's sorted and run a test deca for your third. The one you have proposed is just too messy to much and the var,primo, will most likely be fake.
    Your nandro test say you wanted to up/drop the deca well you can't do this without upping/droping the test i know you are also running test e.

    What about AI,HCG,PCT, and prolactin control ?? More is not better in this game never think like that food is very very important as i said tdee's then set a goal keep it simple.
    Have a think read up ask as many Q as you like then post your proposed cycle then we can help you out.


    the var i have isnt fake, i know cuz iv used it before and the people i deal with are known in the UK and arent ones to sell fake gear. anyways, my question is , will running deca for 5 weeks be a good "kickstart" and then run test once i stop the nandro test (deca and test) and do eq the whole course?

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    tell me what you guys think of this cycle instead:

    week 1-12 test e
    week 1-12 EQ
    week 1-5 dbol
    week 7-12 anavar
    week 7-12 winstrol tablets

    still too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by malgoof
    the var i have isnt fake, i know cuz iv used it before and the people i deal with are known in the UK and arent ones to sell fake gear. anyways, my question is , will running deca for 5 weeks be a good "kickstart" and then run test once i stop the nandro test (deca and test) and do eq the whole course?
    Deca for 5 weeks is a horrible idea for a kickstart. It's a long Esther compound unlike an oral or fast acting Esther .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post
    Deca for 5 weeks is a horrible idea for a kickstart. It's a long Esther compound unlike an oral or fast acting Esther .
    ^^ precisely! You'd need to run deca for 12-14 wks to see it's benefits...

    As others have mentioned bulking to cutting is not a good idea(especially during pct - you need to maintain your new found muscle tissue) kiss that good bye if starting a cut!

    Your best bet is to do a clean proper bulk(if diet and training are on point you'll be able to gain LBM and drop bf)... It's the diet that dictates if your going to bulk or cut(FYI - one can cut/or bulk on pretty much any compound it's all diet! GL

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    You must not love your liver, wanting to run 3 orals...

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    Op, why do you feel the need to run such a large, complicated cycle? Each successive cycle that you run does not have to get bigger, you just need to get better at your nutrition and training.
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