Endurance steroids and detection time?

**downinearth** · 06-19-2015, 10:38 AM

Hi,

I have been wondering how can I mask the use of steroids and EPO with their detection time.
What's the real deal in steroids I could use for endurance and what's their detection time?

I was looking into winstrol injection and oral, It seem that the injection form can be detected in two months but I find in other sources its 45 days and the oral 35 days, has anyone tested them? That's for 0.55mg/kg I think
How long can I keep the effects of winstrol?

idea on what's the best dosage per kg for EPO? 30iu/kg?
Once I was told that high dose of vitamin c and glucose before the test can mask the use of EPO, is that right?

I was thinking on amino acid and multivitamin injection daily for a 10 days before the competition, what do you think?
What do you recommend more for endurance?

Furthermore, what's a good steroid for bone strengthening? And That's not detectable after 1 month or something?

Thank you

**numbere** · 06-19-2015, 11:00 AM

Welcome to the forum. How old are you? What is your height, weight, BF%, and training experience?

Steroid Detection Times

**downinearth** · 06-19-2015, 11:48 AM

Hello

Age 37
Height 179cm
Weight 91kg

I'm cycling mostly and just got into cross fit.

I was offered e p o, h c g and winstrol . But I'm not sure about them I like to ask the best for the best.

**numbere** · 06-19-2015, 01:17 PM

Alright, so your 5'9'' 200 pounds. What is your body fat percentage? How long have you been training?

**downinearth** · 06-19-2015, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by numbere

Alright, so your 5'9'' 200 pounds. What is your body fat percentage? How long have you been training?

Cycling for 8months. 3-4 days a week.
I have fat but not that much, a little belly.

**numbere** · 06-19-2015, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by downinearth

I have fat but not that much, a little belly.

My dad says the same thing and he's about 30% BF. I don't mean to be rude, but I can't give you much advise without knowing your physique.

Look man, I have to assume that you're not in great shape because 8 months is not a long time to have been doing regular physical exercise. I can't recommend that you take a hormone which is going raise your hematocrit and potentially thicken your blood to life threatening levels. Performance enhancers have potentially bad side effects in healthy people. When your not in great physical condition these risks are increased exponentially. In the early 90's when Olympic cyclists first started taking EPO they would set an alarm clock for every 3-4 hours to exercise, so that their blood didn't coagulate and form a blood clot. I do realize that one can take a safer dose, but that safer dose is primarily taken by healthy athletes.

Train hard for 2 or 3 more years while maintaining a healthy diet, and cut your BF down to blow 15%. After those accomplishments are met performance enhancers can be considered.

Also, unless you enjoy having ED and feeling lethargic you have to take test along with winny. When you take an anabolic such as winny your natural test production stops.

**downinearth** · 06-19-2015, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by numbere

My dad says the same thing and he's about 30% BF. I don't mean to be rude, but I can't give you much advise without knowing your physique. Look man, I have to assume that you're not in great shape because 8 months is not a long time to have been doing regular physical exercise. I can't recommend that you take a hormone which is going raise your hematocrit and potentially thicken your blood to life threatening levels. Performance enhancers have potentially bad side effects in healthy people. When your not in great physical condition these risks are increased exponentially. In the early 90's when Olympic cyclists first started taking EPO they would set an alarm clock for every 3-4 hours to exercise, so that their blood didn't coagulate and form a blood clot. I do realize that one can take a safer dose, but that safer dose is primarily taken by healthy athletes. Train hard for 2 or 3 more years while maintaining a healthy diet, and cut your BF down to blow 15%. After those accomplishments are met performance enhancers can be considered. Also, unless you enjoy having ED and feeling lethargic you have to take test along with winny. When you take an anabolic such as winny your natural test production stops.

Thank you so much for the explanation.

What do you think a (small) dosage of winstrol and h c g for more test so I can benefit from muscle growth and recovery?

I think hC G does not have that much of side effects right?

The low dose injection form of winstrol is safer than the oral as for the liver right?

I'm doing an average speed of 38km in a 50 kilo meter track. But that's not enough to be with the pros...

**NACH3** · 06-19-2015, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by downinearth

Thank you so much for the explanation.

What do you think a (small) dosage of winstrol and h c g for more test so I can benefit from muscle growth and recovery?

I think hC G does not have that much of side effects right?

The low dose injection form of winstrol is safer than the oral as for the liver right?

I'm doing an average speed of 38km in a 50 kilo meter track. But that's not enough to be with the pros...

Fyi - winstrol will dry your joints out - and it's quite painful - I had hard times w/my lower back(hurt to walk sometimes - coulda been both that and the cialis aches) but it's not something I'd recommend - nor any kind if AAS at the moment... Read up and educate more - stick around check out our diet and training sections - great stuff

**numbere** · 06-19-2015, 05:43 PM

Using a small amount of winny and hcg is a terrible idea. Your HPG axis will shut down and you will feel horrible. You will need to run a PCT of nolva and clomid to jump start your natural test production. Hypothetically, let's say you did this and made some awesome progress. You would lose everything you gained because you don't know how to achieve it naturally.

Another reason why you need a few years of training experience before using performance enhancers is due to the stress on connective tissue. Ligament and tendon durability takes a while to build. Performance enhancers will increase strength so quickly that inexperienced users will often experience tares in connective tissue.

If you begin using steroids now, before learning how to compete naturally, then you will likely get hooked and need them forever. Put some time and hard work in first like everyone else.

**IronClydes** · 09-17-2017, 10:10 PM

If you're still curious about dosage and detection times, let me know.

EPO is great for endurance. That with training and rest.

I can help you out with the EPO details if you decide I go that route. I've done it for the past 2 years racing endurance sports with great success.

Let me know if you have any questions.

-IronClydes

"Half of any battle you face in life is just showing up every day, despite how you feel"