have accidently been using a .5 inch pin (embarassed)

[Nebis]

Posting from phone so I apoligize about typos and errors.

Long story short my girl was an old pharmacy tech and knew what to say when getting hassled about getting pins so I sent her In after i got denied. She got the pins after asked many questions and the lady behind the counter then just threw some intramuscular pins at her. This being my first cycle and not being familiar with pin sizes I figured it was an inch (This is where I am a retard, I should of been easily able to see this is not the right size and should of done more research at the time to figure out you need 1.5" for glute) as well as excited to start I just started pinning away with these things twice a week rotating left and right glute (test enanthate 350 mg/ml). Well third week in I start getting these hard painful knot/lumps/balls. Obviously the .5 was only hitting fat which now after doing more research realized hitting in the fat I guess isn't all too bad considering it just takes longer for test to absorb (I was worried I wasted it). Bought 1.5 inch 22 gauge syringes this time now that I am educated with sizes and am set to pin either tonight or tomorrow depending on how much more these lumps go down (they are significantly smaller). I think they are a mixture of some irritation from high concentrate as well as some test stuck in the fat that has not yet absorbed. moral of the story is you live and you learn.

After that wall of text my question is how much longer will the test take to kick in Now? I hear week 4 or 5 is the magic week But now when should I be expecting to see prime results? I'm coming up to my second 1cc shot of my 3rd week and have so far:

-gained 3-4 lbs
-much much higher libido
-little gain in strength
-gain in irritability in irritability and short temper (still easy to control and not an issue)

Are these signs I'll still be hitting my optimal peaks coming here in the next week or 2?

[Nebis]

For some reason it won't let me edit my post.

I wanted to change light stength gains yo moderate strength gains

[william981125]

test e usually fully kicks in in week 4. all dem gains up until week 8-10. then u reach a plateau.

[Nebis]

test e usually fully kicks in in week 4. all dem gains up until week 8-10. then u reach a plateau.

this still stands even though the slower intake due to fat absorption instead of muscle?

[william981125]

lol I dont know anything about subcutaneous test shots... but with IM shots it kicks in around week 4.

[Frontpump]

Yea I'm no pro, but just started my test E and deca cycle. First time stacking, and it's been my experience that it took about 2 weeks to notice increased aggression, and at the end of week 3 into week 4, that's when all the real obvious signs kicked in. I'm also going SubQ. The oil did stick around for a while in the fat, which seems to me means that it hadn't fully absorbed into the blood stream, and the ester's weren't being cleaved off to release the hormone. This is my educated guess.

Short answer is, it does seem like subQ set's everything back several days. You'll probably still notice everything around week 4 and 5 though. If your experience is anything like man was.

[Nebis]

Yea I'm no pro, but just started my test E and deca cycle. First time stacking, and it's been my experience that it took about 2 weeks to notice increased aggression, and at the end of week 3 into week 4, that's when all the real obvious signs kicked in. I'm also going SubQ. The oil did stick around for a while in the fat, which seems to me means that it hadn't fully absorbed into the blood stream, and the ester's weren't being cleaved off to release the hormone. This is my educated guess.

Short answer is, it does seem like subQ set's everything back several days. You'll probably still notice everything around week 4 and 5 though. If your experience is anything like man was.

awesome thanks! yea agression and libido def kicked in around the same time as you which relieves me because now i know its real. by "obvious signs" im guessing you mean muscle, weight and strength gains correct?

[michael30]

I do sub q injects for trt. As far as I know the test does not absorb any slower with sub q shots I'm 99% sure of this. If it did Dr. Would recommend sub q shots instead of intramuscular. Also there are techniques to get to optimal levels faster like front loading. But I don't suggest that until you know a lot more. Some people also start cycles with test c or e and test p(which is a short ester and will kick in much faster) then switch over to just the long ester test c or e. But again I wouldn't recommend until your have more experience.

[Frontpump]

awesome thanks! yea agression and libido def kicked in around the same time as you which relieves me because now i know its real. by "obvious signs" im guessing you mean muscle, weight and strength gains correct?

Yea exactly. "obvious" signs include other people noticing increases in muscularity.

Michael30, I have no point of reference for how long injections stay in the muscle vs the fat. So I can't support or contest what you said. I do know that some of my subQ lumps were there 10 or more days after the injection. Some have said that muscles increased bloodflow vs Fat's low blood flow might lead to quicker dispersion intramuscularly. Still, I'm just a newb. Who knows