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    1st cycle - Review requested - TS400

    hey guys. Hoping for some patience and understanding as I am a newbie. I'm 34 years old, with 16% bf and am 6'1 210 lbs. Diet is good with 50% protein, 25% carb, 25% fat. I'm only running about 1700 cals as I am trying to lean up more.

    I've been taking Winstrol for 4 weeks (.25mg am and .25 mg pm) and just picked up some TS400. My Winny runs out this week (W4) (I know; poor planning; sue me).

    I'm looking run TS400 1.5 ML twice per week for a 12 week cycle.

    I am traveling internationally on week 3 of the test (what will be week 6 of the whole cycle) on 7/11 for 7 days. So...

    a ) that week will have to be one pin before I leave and one immediately when I return.
    b ) I don't think I can run my Liquidex this week as I am flying and won't be able to take it

    I am also planning on running Nolvaldex and Clomid for a PCT 2 weeks after my last pin and Liquidex all throughout the cycle.

    If I can obtain more Winny, I'd like to run that the last 6 weeks... so it would be...

    W1: .25mg x2 Win ed
    W2: .25mg x2 Win ed
    W3: .25mg x2 Win ed
    W4: .25mg x2 Win ed; 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex
    W5: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex
    W6: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex (Traveling intl this week. Pins will be 7 days apart)
    W8: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex
    W9: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex
    W10: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex
    W11: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex; .25mg x2 Win ed (If obtainable)
    W12: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex; .25mg x2 Win ed (If obtainable)
    W13: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex; .25mg x2 Win ed (If obtainable)
    W14: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex; .25mg x2 Win ed (If obtainable)
    W15: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex; .25mg x2 Win ed (If obtainable)
    W16: 1.5ML x2 ew TS400; .5mg ed Liquidex; .25mg x2 Win ed (If obtainable)
    W17: OFF
    W18: OFF
    W19: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
    W20: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
    W21: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
    W22: 20mg Nolva ED


    Thoughts?
    Last edited by hghayes10; 06-28-2015 at 11:27 AM.

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    Before that gets picked apart in its entirety, tell us how many cycles you have ran?
    NO SOURCES GIVEN

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    Winstrol alone, with no test? Ugh!

    What's TS400?
    A 400mg/ml test blend?

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    And you plan on running a cycle when you know your going to be leaving(not planned properly) & why winstrol at 16% bf - you won't notice a thing(especially w/out test as your base) and your bf needs to be at 10-12% to see anything from winny!

    AI HCG????? This is a mess! Sorry but are you dosing this TS400 at 1200mgs wkly?! And off - what's that mean? You still need to run your AI up to pct/& HCG up to 3 days prior to your pct!

    What esters are in this blend or TS400

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    ^^^ what he said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Before that gets picked apart in its entirety, tell us how many cycles you have ran?
    1st cycle ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    And you plan on running a cycle when you know your going to be leaving(not planned properly) & why winstrol at 16% bf - you won't notice a thing(especially w/out test as your base) and your bf needs to be at 10-12% to see anything from winny!

    AI HCG????? This is a mess! Sorry but are you dosing this TS400 at 1200mgs wkly?! And off - what's that mean? You still need to run your AI up to pct/& HCG up to 3 days prior to your pct!

    What esters are in this blend or TS400
    I absolutely misstated the dosage for the TS400 and I do apologize for the mass amounts of confusion I am sure that caused. The dosage should be 600mg weekly, so I want to split the 1.5ml into two pins at .75 each.

    As for being off, again, an oversight on my part. I absolutely appreciate you catching that and I will revise the cycle to reflect that.

    Win at 16% - While this is not a valid reason, I'm going to tell you anyway - because I jumped into this half cocked and just got the 1st thing I found because I was anxious. Again, not a valid reason, poor planning, rookie move, etc, etc.

    Now, the TS 400 blend is this...
    Test deco 200mg
    Test isocaporate 30 mg
    Test Phenylproprionte 40mg
    Test Propionate 30mg
    Test Cyp 50 mg
    Test Enanthate 50m

    Revised cycle is this...
    W1: .25mg x2 Win ed
    W2: .25mg x2 Win ed
    W3: .25mg x2 Win ed
    W4: .25mg x2 Win ed; 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex
    W5: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex
    W6: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex (Traveling intl this week. Pins will be 7 days apart)
    W8: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex
    W9: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex
    W10: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex
    W11: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex;
    W12: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex;
    W13: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex;
    W14: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex;
    W15: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex;
    W16: 1.5ML (.75ml x2) ew TS400; .25mg eod Liquidex;
    W17: .25mg eod Liquidex;
    W18: .25mg eod Liquidex;
    W19: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
    W20: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
    W21: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
    W22: 20mg Nolva ED
    Last edited by hghayes10; 06-29-2015 at 08:00 AM.

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    What esters are in this TS 400?? And just stick to test e 500mgs wkly w/an AI and HCG on cycle! Drop the winny as its doing nothing for you atm - disk your diet and training in get bf down to sub 15% as its better to be lower bf then hop on(think of your body like a dried up sponge - ready to soak up all that new muscle etc - it's like filling that sponge w/water(gear nutrients etc) - created a much more anabolic environment to grow!

    Edit - was writing while you were

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    Your L-dex is way too high and should be run eod - at .25mgs to start - im guessing you don't have per cycle blood work, but make sure around the 6-7 wk mark you get your mid cyclr bloods to adjust your AI - & test for E2 sensitive when you go not standard estrodial... Different readings... We want e2 sensitive assay!

    Why not start your test a/your winny even though you shouldn't run it at this time
    Read this

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html
    Last edited by NACH3; 06-29-2015 at 06:03 AM.

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    Nach3, thank you for taking the time to review this and provide advice. Much appreciated and taken to heart.

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    Another q. Better using Liquidex or Aromasin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hghayes10 View Post
    Another q. Better using Liquidex or Aromasin?
    That's gonna be a preference thing... I personally use L-dex but many use stane... I'd think if you used stane and started w/12.5mg ed(split into 2 6.25mg doses every 12 hrs w/fat us a good starting point)! But you need to get BW done to know what adjustments need to be made if any...

    Pre cycle bloods are just as important to compare to your BW 6-8 wks after pct

    And mid cycle BW (6 wks in) to see if you need to up it - if so up it to 25mgs ed so,it into 2 doses 12 hrs apart takin w/a serving of fat(a meal scoop of PB whatever that has a a healthy serving of fat)...

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