latest cycle

[BigGuns89]

hey guys

just thought id share my latest cycle with you.

stats first
6,1"
105kg
3000 cal daily diet split into 6 500cal meals inc protein carb and fat
low b/f but unsure on the %age
many cycles under my belt with numerous compounds
train 5 - 6 days a week weights + cardio sessions

ok...

test e 500ml every 3.5 days with arimadex .5 eod

decided to go for a test only cycle for a number of reasons really and as ive included other compounds before i wasnt gna drop them and stay at like 500mg a week of test alone.

anyone else done a similar cycle?

[Back In Black]

That's most people's standard first cycle. Seems light for a man of your size but it's nice to see somebody not caning as much gear as possible because they think they have to.

Hopefully this can be a lesson to all those 160lbers who want to run numerous compounds.

Any HCG? PCT plan?

[BigGuns89]

thanks for the reply, i would say most peoples first cycle would be around 500mg of test per week as a post to every 3.5 days and have seen that peoples views of around 1g of test a week to be pretty high and any more than that not really useful, that said i do think test only is better for the body in general and in the absence of other compounds high test alone sounds like a good idea for someone who has cycled for a while, just gta keep the estrogen in check. another thing is that i have done alot of cycles so i think to cut everything out and go for 500mg test a week a step backwards, i did do this same cycle a couple year ago and loved it.

as for the hcg i know people are fall in to two categories here, supplement hcg throughout or hit it at the end, i have tried both and dont really see much difference in a responsible cycle so ill be doing 6 shots of 1500iu hcg eod around a week or two after my last jab, whilst taking nolva and clomid two tabs a day then carrying on after the hcg shots for about another week or so then dropping to 1 tab a day of each for a few weeks. ill also keep using arimadex whilst on hcg and a few days after.

[Back In Black]

Sorry mate I meant test e as a first cycle but not 1g lol. Too many people want to run complicated multiple compound cycles after their first.

Have you read Austinite's thread in HCG? It makes no sense to run HCG whilst you are running your PCT.

[BigGuns89]

lol yeah that makes sense!
what are your thoughts on 1g of test a week? taking into account no other compounds.

this hcg thing is something that causes me alot of thought, yes i have read austinites threadd on hcg and many others as they are great reads and i do agree with it but i do feel that if you are using aas why try to keep things going it seems like an internal battle that cant be won. when i use the hcg at the end though i do use higher than say 250iu throughout i do 1500iu but only for 6 eod shots (12 days) i use the nolva and clomid during this time but i still continue it after the hcg period and i consider this to be my pct when i am only using the nolva and clomid. i know this causes alot of debate and for that reason i actually tried running it throughout last year sub q but i found it to be a bit of a ball ache for what i didnt feel was worth it

[Back In Black]

I think sometimes less is more and I like the simplify of test only. Of course it depends on your goals, it wouldn't be a very good precontentest cycle but if you don't want the added complication of other compounds and can get the results you want from as little as possible then you should do it.

So, what are your goals?

[bigdil511]

According to Crisler anymore than 500iu of HCG per week is wasteful and possibly dangerous. Allthings male . Com/word_docs /HCG update.doc That's the article and good read about HCG for trt but I think it still applies.

[BigGuns89]

to be honest my goal is very simple to get as big as humanly possible within the boundaries of this cycle, keep lean with abs, my diet is not one of pre contest or anything - 3000 cals a day split into 6 500 cal meals, no carb cutting although i might consider it

about the hcg yeah over 500 iu would be a bad idea if you were doing it throughout but for a couple weeks at the end 1500iu is ok