What would be, in your opinion, an achievable physique without steroids for an average guy? Let's say after, 3-4 years of diet+exercise+some basic supps+rest? Considering that Frank Zane, for example, an experienced steroid user, nicknamed "the chemist" looked like a nowadays physique competitor.
Is it possible to look like... Scott Adkins or maybe this gay boy (famous for nothing in my country - admitted that he takes aas because he "does not diet for nothing")![]()