first cycle...i'm jumping in!

**beginner boy** · 06-24-2003, 06:27 PM

me:

34 yrs. old
6'5
215 lbs.
44.5 chest
54 shoulders
16 bicep
bf approx. 17%

if you have the time to look this over and give me some thoughts about it, that would be great! i know i'm asking a lot of questions, so if you don't have the time to respond, no worries, but thanks to all that take the time to check it out!

this will be my first cycle ever

(25mg - 50mg proviron /day throughout)
weeks 1-3 250mg test enanthate
weeks 4-8 500mg test enanthate
weeks 9-10 250mg test enanthate + clenbuterol + clomid
week 11 clen + clomid
week 12 clomid
week 13
weeks 14-15 clen

looking for some big gains (can i expect them with proper workout and diet???)......any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

gym 5 days a week....any advice on workouts? frequency? what will give me the best results here? i have the ability to go every day for any number of hours (unemployed at present time - perfect timing!)

diet advice???......

thanks again! i've really enjoyed reading the posts here, seems like a great group of knowledgeable people!

**956Vette** · 06-24-2003, 06:33 PM

1. Dont taper dosage. Not necessary
2. Start PCT 2 wks after last shot of enth
-just two things i noticed right away
Good luck

**BigGreen** · 06-24-2003, 06:34 PM

there is absolutely NO need to pyramid the enanthate (either building up or tapering down) the enanthate ester essentially does what tapering you "need" for you. That's the first thing I noticed right off the bat...i'll take a closer look, but i suspect anyone and everyone who looks at this will immediately see that as the first "flaw".

**BigGreen** · 06-24-2003, 06:35 PM

Damn vette with his quick reply....i hate when someone beats you to the punch while you're typing yours.

**arthurb999** · 06-24-2003, 07:11 PM

Clomid needs to be taken after the test has left your system... weeks 9-12 will still have test in your system.

If you want to bulk up:

500 mg test a week for 10 weeks
400 mg deca a week for 9 weeks
25 mg dbol everyday for weeks 1-4
Clomid week 14... you'll know when it is time. Run it @ 100 mg a day for 10 days, then 50 mg a day for another 10-15.
Proviron throughout until clomid.

Diet is 4000 cals, 350 grams of protien a day. Training is HEAVY as hell hitting everything once a week... pick one bodypart and destroy it.

**beginner boy** · 06-24-2003, 07:21 PM

what happens if you do it w/out the deca and dbol ?? just not as much gain? what type of difference in gains are we looking at w/out the other gear

**gundam675** · 06-24-2003, 08:14 PM

dotn pyramid test, run test at 500mg/ew for 10 weeks.

**arthurb999** · 06-25-2003, 07:02 PM

Maybe use just the dbol then...

500 mg test a week for 10 weeks
25 mg dbol everyday weeks 1-4
0.25 mg of arimidex everyday weeks 1-12
Clomid starts week 13
Milk thistle with the dbol...