Tren cycle help please

[hardknox63]

I know a lot of people on here are smart about this stuff. I need to make sure I've got this cycle right... I'm 28, 180lbs, 5'9... This is my thought on the cycle. I'm aiming for an 8 week cycle.

Run both together Eod...

100 mg Test Prop.
50 to 75 mg of Tren Ace.
(Starting low bc it's my first time trying Tren)

Now, I've heard about adding in Winstrol but how high of a dose and when during my cycle? Also my biggest concern is what PCT to use? I've heard various things... Clomid, Nolvadex, or both? Your answers are much appreciated and thank you.

[numbere]

We need you to answer a few questions before offering any advise.

Why no mention of hcg, AI or a DA?

Bodyfat percentage?

Training experience?

Previous cycling experience?

[hardknox63]

We need you to answer a few questions before offering any advise. Why no mention of hcg, AI or a DA? Bodyfat percentage? Training experience? Previous cycling experience?

I know the HCG helps with the shrinking.. But also saw on boards that it doesn't help much. I've been researching for hours to make sure this is the right cycle. Been training for 5 years and looking to get cut but also gain muscle. My previous cycle was Dianabol which was oral and much worse for the body. Before that I did Winstrol depot.

[hardknox63]

I know the HCG helps with the shrinking.. But also saw on boards that it doesn't help much. I've been researching for hours to make sure this is the right cycle. Been training for 5 years and looking to get cut but also gain muscle. My previous cycle was Dianabol which was oral and much worse for the body. Before that I did Winstrol depot.

On the boards people say HCG is optional during that whole specific cycle. Some people say it helps and others say not so much. That's why I'm here to get as much knowledge as possible.

[thehor]

Tren is a hell of a drug I would be careful if I was you because I did it with hgc,ais and post cycle and it still messed me up for a while.

[hardknox63]

Tren is a hell of a drug I would be careful if I was you because I did it with hgc,ais and post cycle and it still messed me up for a while.

Thanks thehor.... I've heard it is intense also but yields amazing results. That's why I plan to start it at 50 mg.

[thehor]

Yes result wise tren has worked much better than any other compound and I only ran it as low as 300mg a week for 9 weeks. I tried to do 10 weeks but the side effects got worst.

[hardknox63]

Yes result wise tren has worked much better than any other compound and I only ran it as low as 300mg a week for 9 weeks. I tried to do 10 weeks but the side effects got worst.

If you don't mind me asking what exact PCT did you use?

[thehor]

100/50/50/50 clomid 40/40/20/20 nolva

[marcus300]

Your not ready for tren. You not even done a proper cycled so don't touch tren. Just do a simple test only cycle. I'd also look at your diet and training if you been doing this for 5yrs.

[thehor]

Yea I would really stay away from tren. Like I said tren is nothing to play around with just because it yields gains fast and good. You will harm yourself trust me.

[Back In Black]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

Here you go, this is what you need.