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07-23-2015, 04:21 PM #1Junior Member
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Do you eventually need more than testosterone?
Is it possible to never add any other compounds than test + some oral to kickstart with? For example test e/c 500mg e5d for 15 weeks then off for 21 weeks (pct+cycle length) and then same cycle again for 15 weeks and so on. Or do you eventually need to add something to keep gaining?
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07-23-2015, 05:04 PM #2
Depends on your goals. Testosterone is all you need - but the human race are pleasure seeking animals that respond to immediate gratification. It's in our nature to want more even when it's unnecessary.
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07-23-2015, 05:28 PM #3Junior Member
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Blemshow said it best!
But yeah generally test is all you need,plus a oral to go along is always fun.. but like he said people cant hold back if theres more to experiment with.
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07-23-2015, 09:09 PM #4
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07-23-2015, 09:46 PM #5
The problem, as I see it, isn't that there are so many different steroids , it's that people take to many. I agree with Arnold, today's pros look like garbage compared to the way they used to look. The HGH belly looks horrible, and the size of this guys ruin anything appearing like good aesthetics. The V-taper looks good, but today it's gotten insane. And that has trickled down to the masses, with many wanting to become the same chem factories that they see on stage. If people stop thinking that was aesthetically pleasing, maybe it would change. I hope it goes back to the way it was. I don't dislike steroids, but it has gotten out of control.
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07-24-2015, 12:21 AM #6MONITOR
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07-25-2015, 09:28 AM #8
I agree with the general consensus, Test is technically all you need and many cyclist have made great strides using Test-only. However, there is certainly something to be said for the synergy derived from stacking derivative compounds, both for the amplification of gains, and as an aid in the development of specific goal orientations. Don't be afraid to experiment.
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07-25-2015, 09:28 AM #9Banned
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Tren is all you need. Test is just pig's urine in comparison, and you become a disgusting bloated mess on it. And it's a lot cheaper if you consider the price/performance ratio.
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07-25-2015, 09:37 AM #10
Tren -only? That's LUDICROUS!Last edited by magic32; 07-25-2015 at 09:53 AM.
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I AM NOT A SOURCE, I DO NOT GIVE OUT SOURCES, OR PROVIDE SOURCE CHECKS.
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07-25-2015, 11:43 AM #11Originally Posted by dfarre
Dfarre - please stop speaking and sharing bullcrap. Your posts should all be vetted for stupidity.
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07-25-2015, 11:50 AM #12
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07-25-2015, 11:58 AM #14
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Also EQ is a cyclists fav as well as it increases your RBC(which in turn gives you more O2) however it comes w/the risk of high hematocrit(viscosity of your blood thickens - and needs to be monitored w/BW then drained! And EQ is known for its ability to do the above mentioned - hence donate every 8wks if one chose this course of action
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07-26-2015, 02:27 AM #16
i never used more than test e ! it will star after 1 week
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07-26-2015, 08:39 AM #17Originally Posted by NACH3
Thanks for sharing this info on EQ ! I did not know that
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For cyclists yes - BBers not really(unless bulking - it definitely increases appetite so would aid in a bulking cycle - for some - some like its aesthetic properties - most hate it) so if a cyclist im assuming that they won't be bulking w/it just as an aid in increased RBC & more O2 which is why they use it for the climb in altitude as well as just racing....
Note - most of these cyclists are monitored daily as their hematocrit(or hemoglobin - X3 = crit) is in the danger zone(55^ is very dangerous - and should require a donation or self blood letting asap/or very timely)...
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