Do you eventually need more than testosterone?

[n1x0n]

Is it possible to never add any other compounds than test + some oral to kickstart with? For example test e/c 500mg e5d for 15 weeks then off for 21 weeks (pct+cycle length) and then same cycle again for 15 weeks and so on. Or do you eventually need to add something to keep gaining?

[blemshow]

Depends on your goals. Testosterone is all you need - but the human race are pleasure seeking animals that respond to immediate gratification. It's in our nature to want more even when it's unnecessary.

[ELBOZ]

Blemshow said it best!

But yeah generally test is all you need,plus a oral to go along is always fun.. but like he said people cant hold back if theres more to experiment with.

[DrewZ]

Blemshow said it best!

But yeah generally test is all you need,plus a oral to go along is always fun.. but like he said people cant hold back if theres more to experiment with.

it's not always fun, unless she really knows what shes doing.

[Thyroid_cursed77]

The problem, as I see it, isn't that there are so many different steroids, it's that people take to many. I agree with Arnold, today's pros look like garbage compared to the way they used to look. The HGH belly looks horrible, and the size of this guys ruin anything appearing like good aesthetics. The V-taper looks good, but today it's gotten insane. And that has trickled down to the masses, with many wanting to become the same chem factories that they see on stage. If people stop thinking that was aesthetically pleasing, maybe it would change. I hope it goes back to the way it was. I don't dislike steroids, but it has gotten out of control.

[clarky.]

it's not always fun, unless she really knows what shes doing.

X2

Test is all you need but it will depend on you goals. Two cycles a year is plenty grow in to your dose there is no need to up the mg every cycle only do this when you can't grow on that dose but remember nutrition is very very important

[thehor]

X2

Test is all you need but it will depend on you goals. Two cycles a year is plenty grow in to your dose there is no need to up the mg every cycle only do this when you can't grow on that dose but remember nutrition is very very important

Exactly. I think even with 1 cycle a year you can make some good gains specially if you eat like a champ all year long. It all comes down to mainly nutrition.

[magic32]

I agree with the general consensus, Test is technically all you need and many cyclist have made great strides using Test-only. However, there is certainly something to be said for the synergy derived from stacking derivative compounds, both for the amplification of gains, and as an aid in the development of specific goal orientations. Don't be afraid to experiment.

[dfarre]

Tren is all you need. Test is just pig's urine in comparison, and you become a disgusting bloated mess on it. And it's a lot cheaper if you consider the price/performance ratio.

[magic32]

Tren is all you need. Test is just pig's urine in comparison, and you become a disgusting bloated mess on it. And it's a lot cheaper if you consider the price/performance ratio.

Tren-only? That's LUDICROUS!

[krugerr]

Tren is all you need. Test is just pig's urine in comparison, and you become a disgusting bloated mess on it. And it's a lot cheaper if you consider the price/performance ratio.

Agreed. Tren only. Best results inject it directly into the heart for instant growth and fat loss. Not.


Dfarre - please stop speaking and sharing bullcrap. Your posts should all be vetted for stupidity.

[bloodchoke]

Agreed. Tren only. Best results inject it directly into the heart for instant growth and fat loss. Not.

Heart?? Eyeball, bro.

[NACH3]

Tren is all you need. Test is just pig's urine in comparison, and you become a disgusting bloated mess on it. And it's a lot cheaper if you consider the price/performance ratio.

Dfarre how many times do we have to tell you stop giving wreck less advice!

Thiscis the 3rd time in less than two wks I or others have commented on your ridiculous advice!

OP - disregard anything this member has to say - just look at his post history... That's that!

[bloodchoke]

Is it possible to never add any other compounds than test + some oral to kickstart with? For example test e/c 500mg e5d for 15 weeks then off for 21 weeks (pct+cycle length) and then same cycle again for 15 weeks and so on. Or do you eventually need to add something to keep gaining?

The Science of Stacking Steroids

[NACH3]

I agree with the general consensus, Test is technically all you need and many cyclist have made great strides using Test-only. However, there is certainly something to be said for the synergy derived from stacking derivative compounds, both for the amplification of gains, and as an aid in the development of specific goal orientations. Don't be afraid to experiment.

Also EQ is a cyclists fav as well as it increases your RBC(which in turn gives you more O2) however it comes w/the risk of high hematocrit(viscosity of your blood thickens - and needs to be monitored w/BW then drained! And EQ is known for its ability to do the above mentioned - hence donate every 8wks if one chose this course of action

[matri.x]

i never used more than test e ! it will star after 1 week

[PBJtime]

Also EQ is a cyclists fav as well as it increases your RBC(which in turn gives you more O2) however it comes w/the risk of high hematocrit(viscosity of your blood thickens - and needs to be monitored w/BW then drained! And EQ is known for its ability to do the above mentioned - hence donate every 8wks if one chose this course of action

Thanks for sharing this info on EQ ! I did not know that

[NACH3]

Thanks for sharing this info on EQ ! I did not know that

For cyclists yes - BBers not really(unless bulking - it definitely increases appetite so would aid in a bulking cycle - for some - some like its aesthetic properties - most hate it) so if a cyclist im assuming that they won't be bulking w/it just as an aid in increased RBC & more O2 which is why they use it for the climb in altitude as well as just racing....

Note - most of these cyclists are monitored daily as their hematocrit(or hemoglobin - X3 = crit) is in the danger zone(55^ is very dangerous - and should require a donation or self blood letting asap/or very timely)...