Nolva only pct

**Mountainman360** · 08-01-2015, 04:42 PM

**** clomid sides. They all sound so miserable and on top of being shut down why would want those extra sides? Anyone know any good alternative pct protocols that work? Maybe just running nolva 40/40/20/20 or torem maybe with something else? Torem/nolva? Exemestane? I know nolva/clomid is tried and true and has been what everyone has done for years and years but I feel like there's gotta be something better out there for recovery nowadays.

**Euroholic** · 08-01-2015, 05:53 PM

I only used tamox and i recovered just fine. A lot of people on this site swear by the both of them for maximum efficiency

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-01-2015, 05:57 PM

Until I tried clomid/nolva combo I wouldn't make any substitutions or rash judgements. You might very well be surprised, sides are often well overblown. Also never dose clomid over 100mg/day and thats in week one, after that drop to 50.
In fact I use liquid clomid & nolva and I dose my clomid in pct at 70/35/35/35 and nolva at 40/20/20/20 (sometimes 2 added weeks just nolva at 20/20) and I do great. No sides , great recovery.

**Mountainman360** · 08-01-2015, 08:16 PM

Yea I'm going to end up trying the standard protocol for my first cycle and test how I react but just in case I react badly I want to have a backup for the next time I do pct

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-01-2015, 08:37 PM

If need be you can replace clomid with toremifene. Toremifene is dosed differently however. Id do torem at 120/60/60/60 along with nolva.

**Mountainman360** · 08-01-2015, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

If need be you can replace clomid with toremifene. Toremifene is dosed differently however. Id do torem at 120/60/60/60 along with nolva.

I've heard the same thing from the research I've done but aren't torem and nolva almost the same compound basically?

**AR's King Silabolin** · 08-02-2015, 02:43 AM

I agreed on the clomid sides. Actually i feel more sides during my pct than summercycle. Diareah, testicle pain( gone), fatigue, sligth heavy breathing. It all turned better when i dropped to 50 g clomid ed.

But....strength, gains, size and weigth are well kept, i guess thanks to clomid.

**Mr.BB** · 08-02-2015, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

I agreed on the clomid sides. Actually i feel more sides during my pct than summercycle. Diareah, testicle pain( gone), fatigue, sligth heavy breathing. It all turned better when i dropped to 50 g clomid ed.

But....strength, gains, size and weigth are well kept, i guess thanks to clomid.

Well you were taking 100mgs per day for 3 weeks... thats too much... 75 on 1st week, then 50 for more three weeks seems to do the trick.

**Mountainman360** · 08-02-2015, 08:12 PM

How do you guys normally dose your clomid/nolva pct? I've heard everything from 100mg clomid Ed for a month (obviously unrealistic) to 30/30/30/30. I was thinking...

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