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    ProHormones. Help please!

    So this is a ProHormone question! Been lurking around here for ages now, been reading on things etc, and I've been trying to read about this ProHormone I'm thinking of taking! But I need someone's advice on this PH I'm thinking of taking and if the PCT afterwards is suitable! So the list is as follows. Just some little info of me personally. 18 years of age (yes I am aware of the dangeours), about 5'10/5'11 in height, 178lbs, BF% probably around 12/13, haven't actually correctly checked. Diet is on point, eating around 3,500kcal, will be doing strength training during cycle. So here it is :

    Methdrol:

    90 Caps Methdrol 90 Caps
    Serving Size: 1 Cap
    Servings per container: 90
    Amount Per Serving
    2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol 10mg
    (be doing 20mg a day for 4 weeks)

    That's it for the PH as it is my first cycle.

    Now the PCT:
    (Post Cycle Matrix)
    90 Caps Fusion Supplements Post Cycle Matrix
    Serving size - 1 Capsule
    Servings Per Container - 90
    Amount Per Serving
    6-Bromoandrostenedione 30mg
    Forslean
    L-Histadine HCL 100mg
    Grape seed extract (95% Procyanidolic oligomers)

    AND

    Lean Xtreme:


    90 Caps Lean Xtreme
    Serving Size:1 Capsule
    Servings Per Container:90
    Amount Per Serving
    Proprietary Blend 455mg
    Green Tea Extract (50% EGCG), Salvia Miltiorrhiza (root) (15-hydramax™), Coleus Forskohlii (40% Forskolin), Phosphatidylserine, 5-AT (7-hydroxy 17B-dihydro dehydroepiandrosterone),Black Pepper Extract (fruit) (BioPerine®)
    Other Ingredients:
    Magnesium Stearate, Rice Powder, Gelatin.

    Ok so there it is! I would really appreciate it if someone could give me some advice on this and if it's ok to run! I've read some comments on other websites saying that people have ran this before and worked well. But just wanted some confirmation from someone trusted! My first cycle so I'm a bit weary! Thanks guys!
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    It is essentially another version of Superdrol. It is extremely hepatoxic, even liver support may not help. Very harsh on the hairline as well. Your PCT is not a real PCT, likely won't help you recover, you will stay shut down and loose any an all gains. Also without any AI during cycle, you are also likely to develop gynocomastia (Man boobs). So if your goal is to be a balding 18 year old with man boobs and can't get it up, then this is a good cycle for you however, I doubt that is the case. To sum it up, this is a bad cycle that will do more harm than good, and I won't even touch on the age issue, because the cycle would be bad at any age.

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    Not okay to run. all those on-cycle support supps and Pct supps are garbage and will not help recovery or prevent you from getting gyno and you're also too young to be using hormones especially ones as harsh as mdrol

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    Why do pro hormone my impression is they are super bad for liver

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    Ok. Lucky I didn't buy them then without the proper information!

    Could you recommend a safe PH cycle for a beginner? With proper PCT. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenWhoLifts79 View Post
    Ok. Lucky I didn't buy them then without the proper information!

    Could you recommend a safe PH cycle for a beginner? With proper PCT. Thanks.
    For someone your age there are no safe PH cycles...You have a very good amount of natural testosterone to make plenty of gains with a high level of natural gh as well...If you're not gaining we have a great diet and training section here that will ensure you do. Diet is probably the most important part of having good body composition. If you take these prohormones...You're letting a hormone off the shelves of a store replace your natural testosterone production that is peaking right now and might never turn back on after the cycle because it's in a fragile state and still developing...meaning you will have limp dick, constant tiredness, and won't be able to hold onto any muscle...At your age you can make steroid-like gains with TIME which is also another important part of building a good base

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenWhoLifts79 View Post
    Ok. Lucky I didn't buy them then without the proper information!

    Could you recommend a safe PH cycle for a beginner? With proper PCT. Thanks.
    Don't think there is any such thing as a safe pro-hormone cycle. PH's are popular amongst people who are afraid to inject. In all honesty, real steroids are safer than PH's wait a few years, concentrate on diet and training and then run a test only cycle. I know it may seem like a long time away but trust me, don't wish the years away, they will pass soon enough.

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    That's not a PH. It is a harsh steroid and just as illegal as any injectable (in the US, at least).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenWhoLifts79 View Post
    ....will be doing strength training during cycle...!
    Ummm, yeah, that's pretty well the whole point. One would assume that you've already been doing that for years, and will continue to, after your cycle...

    But, don't take any drugs! Just learn to workout, and eat, properly. You really will make excellent gains, that way, for now.

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    Ive bougth the same thing. Another label, but it says M-Drol, superdrol clone. My Version also says its not so livertoxic anymore.
    I will begin 1 september and BW after week 5 (also togehter With test/dec) If you wait until then, i will have my livervalues ready. And we will find out Whos rigth, conservative experts or the manufactores.
    Im thinking, it cannot be more toxic than dianabol and dianabol is Extreme popular.

    But you are way too Young. At 18 you can gain 15 pounds in a year just from training and diett. Even Gregg Valentino was a natty for 23 years. Its no hurry, you will get there.
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    Methasteron is far more toxic than Dbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Methasteron is far more toxic than Dbol.
    So you think its Anadrol-like then when it comes to liverstress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    That's not a PH. It is a harsh steroid and just as illegal as any injectable (in the US, at least).
    This is spot on. Do not kid yourself about what you are considering taking. There are many dangers to taking what your proposing and at your age the dangers tend to go even further beyond what you might have considered. I would strongly urge you to reconsider this and do not attempt this.

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