Next cycleplan critics?

[AR's King Silabolin]

44, 115 kg, 17%

Goal, serious quality gains and serious headturns, at a fair cost.

Ended lowdosed summercycle early juli. New cyclestart 1 .sept, if my BW is acceptable.
1-12 250 mg test
1-12 250 mg deca
1-(4-6) M-Drol prohormone (gotta try this shit), 10-20 mg ed
5-(10-12) 200 mg Masteron.

No HCG, pct clomid/Nolva, max healthy lifestyle, liver and cholestrolsupport.
Maybe a little SERM week 1-12.
Think i will have BW after M-drol, week 5.

Good to go guys?

[PT]

I'm a little confused here, why the 200mgs of masteron at the end? Can't see 200mgs doing a thing especially at 18%. Your test and deca is very low but I would still use an AI

[AR's King Silabolin]

Masteron cause i cant run orals for 12 weeks, and 500 mg test/deca is low so i need another compund and i belive in a synergieffect With another "type" of steroid, A DHT based one. Thats how im thinking. More gains, less sides compared to 750 mg deca/test.

And masteron migth be important when you choose not to use an AI. (Wanna minimize high cholestrol).
And ive got Masteron. I will try to diett down to min 15-16% before cyclestart.

[tarmyg]

Masteron cause i cant run orals for 12 weeks, and 500 mg test/deca is low so i need another compund and i belive in a synergieffect With another "type" of steroid, A DHT based one. Thats how im thinking. More gains, less sides compared to 750 mg deca/test.

And masteron migth be important when you choose not to use an AI. (Wanna minimize high cholestrol).
And ive got Masteron. I will try to diett down to min 15-16% before cyclestart.

Is this what you meant to type or is there a typo on the first post because this is making zero sense?

[AR's King Silabolin]

Is this what you meant to type or is there a typo on the first post because this is making zero sense?

ah...the first post stands. The second one was an answer to PT on why i choose to use Masteron at the end

[Mr. Small]

It's a bit of a mess though

What cycles have you done before?

[AR's King Silabolin]

20 cycles ca......500 mg a week cycles.....tried most roids....what u mean mess?

[clarky.]

I don't know where to start really hmmm ok your test and deca is on the very low side as for the m drol ph are a load of shit.
Mast will do nothing for you at tgat bf % sub 10% for that and the last few wks no worth it.
No HCG why and no DA on hand and no AI ?? It's just a mess waiting to happen imo
And you should run your test longer than the deca. So just a few things eh.

[AR's King Silabolin]

I don't know where to start really hmmm ok your test and deca is on the very low side as for the m drol ph are a load of shit.
Mast will do nothing for you at tgat bf % sub 10% for that and the last few wks no worth it.
No HCG why and no DA on hand and no AI ?? It's just a mess waiting to happen imo
And you should run your test longer than the deca. So just a few things eh.

I will Research your opinions, but rigth now i disagree With few of them. I think deca test dose is ok when running the prohormone and a dht for the last weeks, together equalent 750 mg a week.
Mast has worked for me before at that fat%.

HCG i agree on, but i cant get my hands on it. Never considered DA..researchtime.
AI; maybe not needed. Deca, masteron and prohormone will not convert to e. I have SERM on hand wich should be enough. AI is bad News for cholestrol.

Test longer than deca, Yeah..thats a good thing, maybe i quit deca at week 10.

Yo, thanks for your opinion, not meaning to be cocky when i argue. Thinking loud...

[NACH3]

20 cycles ca......500 mg a week cycles.....tried most roids....what u mean mess?

Well I believe Clarky nailed it! Your gonna need an AI/HCG(look online - google there's many sites)/and DA on hand for prolactin - mast has anti E capabilities but no where near an AI - and mast at anything over 10%(lower actually) is a waste of time & $$$...

Thinking - outta all the orals you can take why M-drol(PH) - run NAC/or UDCA imo(as it's very hepatoxic) - but look into other options for your oral, imho...

[AR's King Silabolin]

M-Drol...cause im curious and its in on my table. It cannot be more toxic than D-bol or Anadrol. And i will only do 10-20 mg a day for 5 weeks. And the newest Version claims its just moderate toxic. BW week 5 will show. At least i can come up With some prohormone updated info for the Board.

And it was my wife who bougth it. She has no knowhow, but you dont throw gifts away. Especially not from Your wife. Got no Choice, gotta take it.

But stil, Your opinions will help. I will study more. Rigth now i will look into the DAworld. Stil i dont think an AI is necessary for this one. I got some SERM. If you read this sites profileinfo, it will also say an AI may not be needed here.

Cholestrol is the most toxic thing. It fills Your arteries and veins and gives you heartattack, stroke etc. Its far more worse than shutdown, prolactin and estrogen overload. AI is bad News for cholestrol.

[numbere]

Silabolin I have been reading your posts for the last few weeks. You seem to be a person who is very concerned about their health and someone who has no problem opposing the status quo. These are both great personality traits, but don't let them cloud your judgement.

The members here are also concerned about your health, and collectively, have much more experience with these compounds. Guys on TRT using less than 250 mg/week use an AI. Plus, nandrolone converts to e2 at about 20% the rate of test.

IMO you should thank your wife for the m drol, sell it on ebay and then take her out for a nice dinner. If you want a great kicker then use test p. That dose of deca is low, 250 mg/week is slightly more than a clinical dose for men suffering from anemia. Using less than 350-400 mg/week, of mast, for less than 4 weeks is a waste of time and money.

[NACH3]

Masteron cause i cant run orals for 12 weeks, and 500 mg test/deca is low so i need another compund and i belive in a synergieffect With another "type" of steroid, A DHT based one. Thats how im thinking. More gains, less sides compared to 750 mg deca/test.

And masteron migth be important when you choose not to use an AI. (Wanna minimize high cholestrol).
And ive got Masteron. I will try to diett down to min 15-16% before cyclestart.

Numbere said it best... Covered lots of ground and he's right!

I'm getting you like the orals - however I'm going to propose a different plan - try pulsing your orals throughout your cycle(do some research in pulsing orals) - say 10-14 days on and 10 off - but watch for sides(if you start to see sides drop it then as its defeating the purpose of pulsing). Pulsing will keep your gains coming w/less side effects - water retention should be kept at bay, any stomach issues that come w/running orals, headaches, high BP ETC!

I'm doing it now/a-drol and I can say I like this method - just something to look into...

[Mr. Small]

I don't know where to start really hmmm ok your test and deca is on the very low side as for the m drol ph are a load of shit.
Mast will do nothing for you at tgat bf % sub 10% for that and the last few wks no worth it.
No HCG why and no DA on hand and no AI ?? It's just a mess waiting to happen imo
And you should run your test longer than the deca. So just a few things eh.

That is the mess explained right there

[PrettyPlease?]

I agree with a lot of what has been covered already with the exception of all "prohormones" being a load of shit.A lot of prohormones are simply designer steroids and some are pretty damn powerful.

Superdrol (or M-Drol if it contains: 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol) and dienelone just to name a few are far from a load of shit.

[AR's King Silabolin]

. Using less than 350-400 mg/week, of mast, for less than 4 weeks is a waste of time and money.

I do not agree guys. 500 test/deca + an oral/prohormone is not too low. Im already big and i do not compete, just looking for more headturns.
And i have used 200 mg masteron a week alone with nice results.

Ai...well..advice keep coming so maybe i consider. 20 cycles without it, didnt kill me though