orals for diabetes question

[tice1212]

Good morning boys,
I have a who is type 1 diabetic I have coached him through several cycles with great success the muscular development department and health department. Approached me the other day about jumping on an oral. I told him that orals aren't the safest route for is already under a lot of stress. I had suggested my liver friendly oral such as t-bol @ 50mg or var @ 60/70mg. Is this a bad idea or should he double up the NAC dosage? Also will clen cause stress on the liver or kidneys for a T1D? thanks boys

[NACH3]

I'm no expert in what your asking, tice... But I'm thinking that var or T-Bol would be fine - just have him run labs(say after 3-4 wks and reasses) but they'll still be broken down by the kidneys)- ... Hopefully a vet will chime in!

And one did lol

[Bonaparte]

What does diabetes have to do with liver enzymes?
And Tbol is actually pretty rough on the liver, based on past experiences.

[PrettyPlease?]

What does diabetes have to do with liver enzymes?

Diabetes can cause Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease and vice versa which can cause liver enzyme abnormalities.

[NACH3]

What does diabetes have to do with liver enzymes?
And Tbol is actually pretty rough on the liver, based on past experiences.

I didn't mean to talk about liver enzymes in correlation w/diabetes(I know it looks like it) meant to say kidneys(getting processed by the kidneys - but if T-Bol is harsh(never ran it myself) then itd still be wise to get em checked - im sure it's much harder on his kidneys as he's a diabetic - like I mentioned im glad a vet chimed in...

I thought T-Bol is dubbed poor mans var - and it was just as mild?!

[Bonaparte]

Diabetes can cause Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease and vice versa which can cause liver enzyme abnormalities.

That's only associated with type II DM.

[PrettyPlease?]

That's only associated with type II DM.

You are absolutely correct. I missed that he was Type I.

Also I agree that t-bol is not really mild on the liver. It may not be the most hepatotoxic but it certainly is not as mild as something like anavar .