1st cycle results?

[ma2t9x]

M just curious I'm starting my very first cycle in about 2 weeks was wondering how much lean mass I should expect from 400mg test cyp a week for 12 weeks. I know it all depends on diet and on the person but just curious on what you guys think I've read 1 guy said he put on 45lbs I think that's way too much but than again I'm not sure, let me know thanks

[djgreen]

don't compare yourself to others not a good thing to do and that 45lbs of lean mass on 1 cycle is a lie as far as im concerned I bet a lot of it was fat but maybe possible don't know him or what he did but doesn't matter, what's your age and stats?

[ma2t9x]

I'm 24 years old, 6 foot 205 13% body fat as of 2 weeks ago

[djgreen]

I since its your first cycle I would bet on 8 to 15lbs of lean mass for the average guy and that's if you know what you are doing and loose 3-5lbs when you come off it really comes down to diet, training and sleep the steroids only create optimal conditions for growth so they wont work well unless you have those 3 things down pat

[djgreen]

not to be a dick but since you are even asking this ? I would say you need to do more research before you start any cycle

[ma2t9x]

Yeah right now I'm getting 9-10 hours of sleep, training 6 days a week, and getting about 3500 cals in a day should I up my cals during cycle?

[ma2t9x]

I've done research for about a year but when you look up results it depends on many variables, was just curious what people thought was a average number for a first cycle

[djgreen]

3500 cals seems like a good # for your stats but you will need to make that call and adjust to what works best

[djgreen]

do you have a pct plan or using hcg ?

[ma2t9x]

Clomid, nolva, hcg , arimidex just in case

[djgreen]

you will need to use the AI throughout the cycle

[ma2t9x]

I was going to use .25 mg just to prevent excess water retention and gyno

[djgreen]

ok you said just in case so just make sure you use it to keep estrogen in check also I would bump the test up to 500mg

[ma2t9x]

Alright thanks for all your replies man

[djgreen]

no prob bra there's a lot more info on here look up the sticky about planning and executing a successful first cycle

[Back In Black]

Layout your full cycle for full critique please.

[ma2t9x]

Test cyp cycle 12 weeks 1-12 test cyp 500mg 1-12 hcg 500iu a week 1-12 arimidex .25mg increase if needed after blood work Pct I'm running nolva and clomid

Pct starts 2 weeks after last pin

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/25/25