Considering first PH cycle-need help

[kmick87]

Sorry if this is the wrong sections, I didn't see one for only PH's.


I'm 27, going on 28, been lifting for about 3 years. I've thought about doing a cycle before but never committed. Now that I'm done cutting and starting to bulk again I want to try a cycle. As with most, I'm concerned about getting Gyno during or after the cycle. I had surgery last year to remove pubertal gyno and can't spend the money on surgery, and don't want to deal with it again.

I've been searching for a PH that has little to no chance of Gyno. I'm currently looking at 1-andro or 4-andro by Ironmaglabs, 4-andro is more appealing with the effects you get but it seems 1-Andro is safer. Out of these two which should I go with? What else is available that has very little, to no chance of gyno being a side?

I've also been doing my research on cycle support, PCT, and SARMs. If I run Nolva throughout the entire cycle and PCT do you think I would be clear of gyno? What else is recommend as far as a SARM? I think I've figured out the cycle support and other parts of the PCT.

If it's too risky I'll just try to stop thinking about it. Thanks for any help.

[Mountainman360]

You have a lot of research to do. Oral only cycles are a no no and prohormones are garbage and will shut you down hard. The only recommendation for a first cycle that you're gonna get on here is 500mg test e/c for 12 weeks, of course with an AI, HCG and proper clomid/nolva pct. If you don't know what these things are that start studying. The stickies here will be your best friend.

[kmick87]

Thanks for the info. I expected most responses telling me to do something other than a PH forum, since this isn't really a PH forum, but I wanted to post since this website gets a lot of traffic. If this the wrong place for this feel free to delete it, admins.

[djgreen]

agree with mountanman PH are toxic garbage

[Mountainman360]

Thanks for the info. I expected most responses telling me to do something other than a PH forum, since this isn't really a PH forum, but I wanted to post since this website gets a lot of traffic. If this the wrong place for this feel free to delete it, admins.

I did a ph cycle a while back, before I really knew anything. Looking back on it I know that it was a mistake and I could have gotten better results with real gear and it wouldn't have been as toxic and suppressive on my body. When you run a prohormone only it's going to shut down your test production causing you to feel like shit. That's why test should always be used as a base for orals. Stay away from orals period until you run a test cycle, you'll se better results and feel 1000X better while on cycle