Gyno or what?

hi everybody

sometimes i get pain nipple zone like a pain thick but if i touch nipple or play with it(also very strong) i have no pain at all and i don't feel any lump at moment. Nipples get ichy sometimes usually is more annoyng at night before i sleep. I have noticed that when i am busy maybe is a coincidence but nipple are pain and itchy free.

Is this gyno for you? Currently on 700mg pharma test prop no AI only sides at moment is this. Blood pressure is 115/60 5 week on.

On 30mg dbol blood pressure was 180/90.

If there is no lump then gyno is not present. Will you get gyno from not running ai? More than likely.

You play with your nipples? Maybe your high e2 is affecting your mind.

Your diastolic BP was 180? Jesus.

hope is not like this,i have nolva on hand but don't wanna take it.. i read is cancerogenic,decrease igf and increase sghb.... not a good combo.

In a week max i gonna start 1mg armidex every 4day, if gyno develop this week will reverse fast with this protocol?


diastolic was 90...

when i say play with nipple i mean touch them pretty hard for see if sensivity is present.

Sorry I meant to type systolic. What I'm saying is you're lucky to be alive. Systolic BP of 180 is really serious. You shouldve gone straight to a hospital.

Now about Nolva. Cancerous? No. Where did you get that from? It's actually used to treat breast cancer and stop it from metastasising.

Arimidex will do nothing to stop gyno that's already there. Start Nolva now 40mg ED for 3 days(or a week depending on how advanced gyno is) then run it 20mg ED thereafter for at least 10 days.

Nolva has been studied as a treatment to reverse early stage gyno:

Treatment of gynecomastia with tamoxifen: A double-blind crossover study
Lawrence N. Parker, a, b, c, David R. Graya, b, c, Michael K. Laia, b, c, Ellis R. Levina, b, c

But as I said in another thread Letrozole is a more aggressive tactic.

There is no lump at moment... Reserch show that tamoxifene bind irreversible to dna and cause canceronic mutation of cells. Serch on google. After 3 months of therapy woman risk of develop trombosis increase by 500%

Tamoxifen cannot "bind" to DNA. It binds to Estrogen receptors in specific areas of the body - especially breast tissue. This prevents estrogen binding to the same receptors. It competes with estrogen trying to bind to breast tissue.

I have no idea what study you are referencing. Nolva is a long established, tried and true method and is used by TRT doctors and doctors specialising in HPTA recovery after AAS like Michael Scally. I've told you how to deal with gyno. It's up to you now.

You have no problem running 700 mgs prop but you're concerned about Nolvadex? Seriously?
You need to worry about your BP, stop your cycle and run a pct, assuming you know what that is. And don't cycle again until you're more educated regarding aas usage.

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Originally Posted by kelkel

You have no problem running 700 mgs prop but you're concerned about Nolvadex? Seriously?
You need to worry about your BP, stop your cycle and run a pct, assuming you know what that is. And don't cycle again until you're more educated regarding aas usage.

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Blood pressure was 180 90 about 3 month ago when i was on 30mg dbol.. now is 115/60 on 700mg prop week five.

You guys think i am overthinking? i am not aware of any side effect of testosterone.. let alone htpa thing.
when i read about nolvadex i read trombosis...,embolism, sound scary to me.
Californica add tamoxifene in a list of cancerogenic substance.

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Originally Posted by gege2003

i am not aware of any side effect of testosterone.. let alone htpa thing.

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And this statement is exactly why I said you need to stop what you're doing.

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Originally Posted by OutThere

Tamoxifen cannot "bind" to DNA. It binds to Estrogen receptors in specific areas of the body - especially breast tissue. This prevents estrogen binding to the same receptors. It competes with estrogen trying to bind to breast tissue. I have no idea what study you are referencing. Nolva is a long established, tried and true method and is used by TRT doctors and doctors specialising in HPTA recovery after AAS like Michael Scally. I've told you how to deal with gyno. It's up to you now.

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These studies were done on women and rats though:
http://www.drugs.com/sfx/tamoxifen-side-effects.html

can you tell to me? i am talking about imminent life tratening side effects... cholesterol don't do that,hematocrit take years to get high,blood pressure is call silent killer because take years to do damage.

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Originally Posted by gege2003

can you tell to me? i am talking about imminent life tratening side effects... cholesterol don't do that,hematocrit take years to get high,blood pressure is call silent killer because take years to do damage.

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LOL... so clueless

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Originally Posted by Mr.BB

LOL... so clueless

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.....ok can you tell me what i need to know? so i can save my life.

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Originally Posted by gege2003

.....ok can you tell me what i need to know? so i can save my life.

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It was already told to you, stop what you're doing run pct.

go see a doctor for a check up and full blood work up and EKG