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    First Cycle: Yay or Nay

    So its been only 48 hours on this site and man have I changed my ideas on AAS. At first I was trying to be a typical var (oral only) cycle w/o test base, and now im researching a test cycle as my first.

    My stats are:
    Age 24
    Height 5’10
    Weight 175
    BF 15%

    Bench: 225x5 Dead:315x5 Squat:315x3

    My goals to achieve from cycle is predominantly to gain a lean 10lbs of retainable muscle post PCT. Also I would like to lose some fat (maybe 1-2%)

    My cycle I currently have planned is:

    Week 1-12 TEST-E 500mg/W [250mg M/Th]
    Week 1-6 Adex 0.25 E3D
    Week 6-12 Adex 0.25 EOD
    Week 6-13 HCG 500iu/W [250IU M/TH]

    PCT [Week 14-Week 18]
    Clomid 50/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20
    (HCGen or HCG?)

    How does it look for a first cycle? Is fat loss more due to diet instead of compounds? What would you change? What’s missing or unnecessary? Also, what extent of sides/complications should I expect(Ik each of the sides for the compounds individually however was curious if any synergistic type neg affect)? Lastly, a pet peeve of mine is that 'moon-face' bloat, should I be protected from this(as far as supplementation goes, Ik its very dependent on sodium/carb/calorie intake)?
    Last edited by SePz; 09-10-2015 at 01:34 PM.

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    You can get to 200 pounds with your diet and then think about using anabolic steroids .

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    Id train for another 12 months and try to gain a little more weight, that way you will also be 25 years old or older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3863 View Post
    You can get to 200 pounds with your diet and then think about using anabolic steroids.
    No you cannot get to 200 lbs using your diet and maintain a bf% at 5'10" naturally that will make it ideal for you to be able to cycle (under 15%)
    Last edited by davidtheman100; 09-11-2015 at 09:59 AM.

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    I alwayd found it stupid to throw random number... " get to 200lbs first" and shit like this...
    Like if everyone had the same genetic or frame...

    I never went over 170 pounds 15% natty and ive never been as dedicated(diet and training wise) as when I was natty.
    Now that im enhanced my diet is way worst than before and my training is less constant. And I hardly go under 190...

    So 200pounds is ****ing arbitrary and seriously 200pounds natty is unachievable for lots of people(with decent bodyfat)...

    Anyway your cycle looks good except the HCG during PCT, you use it during cycle which is good dont use it qhile PCT it is counter productive.

    I also would start arimidex at .25mg EOD a weeks 1.
    But it wont change much...

    Good luck

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