My 3rd cycle: Advice needed on Stack (+ MPB prone)

[THAMIZHAN]

Hello All,
Goal is to bring down BF below 15%. Short 8 Week cutting cycle as follows, Please advice and correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

Though its my 3rd cycle, this is my first run with Test. Plan is to lose body fat % as much as possible, target is <15% (Being realistic here). When I last checked BF was on the higher side of 17%, almost like 18% ( but it was around 4 months ago).


Week 1-8 : Alpha Pharama Test Prop : 300 mg/ Week (Mon, Wed, Fri) -> Is this under-dosed ?
Week 1-8 : Alpha Pharam Masteron : 300 mg/ Week (Tue, Thr, Sat) -> Is this under-dosed ?
Week 1-8 : Meditech Inj. Winstrol : 100 mg E3D (Probably along with Test)
Week 1-8 : Alpha Pharma Anavar : 50 mg ED
Week 1-9 : 25mg Aromasin EOD (till PCT starts or shall I run it until when PCT ends)
Week 1-2,5-6: Clen : start with 40 and increase based on how i react (2 weeks On, 2 weeks Off)
week 1-8: T3 : Will T3 benefit me ? or is it asking for trouble. I understand that, there is a possibility of gaining back all the weight lost once we stop T3.

Do I require HGH : ??? should I include HGH for a short 8 week cycle? Believe HGH takes few months to kick in.. Also all the side effects of "Fake/bunk HGH" is scary lol


PCT

Starts 7 days post the last pin

Clomid : 75/50/50/50
Nolvadex : 40/20/20/20
Aromain: 25/25/25/25 ? Shall I use this until when PCT ends?

Supps:

Dymatize Elite Whey
Dymatize Amino 6000
Multivitamin: Universal Univite
Animal Cut
Niox
Omega3
Liv 52



For MPB: Masteron, Winny, anavar is DHT derivative so there is no conversion to inhibit. The Only hope I have here is to add in a topical DHT blocker to help prevent hairloss at the root level.

Minoxidil 15% + 10% Azelaic acid + 3% Saw palmetto - topical solution
Dutasteride 0.5mg - Sides are scary - Not sure whether to include to the list yet
Fin 1 Mg ( If i ditch Duta)
Androanagen - Multivit tab
Azelaic acid cream 20%
Nizoral 2% - Shampoo
Zincovit/riconia - Multivit tab
Supradyn - Multivit tab

Do you think I'm pushing it with all these stuff into the system ??


Diet:

Macros : Will post detailed Diet plan, when I get time.

P: 50 (Chicken, Eggwhite, Fish, etc)
C: 40 (vegies, wheat bread, rice, etc)
F: 10 (Almond, Olive oil, etc and remaining from Protein sources)

I know this is long list of questions, Please answers at your earliest convenience. Thanks in advance.

[Frontpump]

You're going to lose hair, so just get that settled in your mind. No amount of hair loss prevention is strong enough to overpower steroids . "The only hope you have" is to prepare for baldness because what you're using isn't going to do anything in light of winny, and masteron .

Dutasteride sides scary? Only thing I've noticed is zero sex drive. You'll DEFINITELY want to consider upping your AI dose, as now the test isn't going through the 5a-reductase, and is more available for aromatase. AKA manboobs.

[THAMIZHAN]

You'll DEFINITELY want to consider upping your AI dose, as now the test isn't going through the 5a-reductase, and is more available for aromatase. AKA manboobs.

Thanks Frontpump, Yeah that point will keep in mind.

Ok lets take the Hair out of contention, Guys please comment on the cycle and PCT . Thanks.

[Back In Black]

If you haven't run test before then run test ONLY.

Your diet will dictate results not pumping 6 or 7 compounds into your body.

What is your

Age

Height

Weight

???

[THAMIZHAN]

If you haven't run test before then run test ONLY.

Your diet will dictate results not pumping 6 or 7 compounds into your body.

What is your

Age

Height

Weight

???

How did I miss that, Sorry here it goes.

Age : 30

Height : 5' 7

Weight : 75


Will you suggest Test and HGH only cycle ??

[Back In Black]

Can you post a pic? I'm having difficulty imagining your physique at 165lbs and 18% bodyfat.

I think a diet overhaul is probably all you need but let's have a look first.

[THAMIZHAN]

Can you post a pic? I'm having difficulty imagining your physique at 165lbs and 18% bodyfat.

I think a diet overhaul is probably all you need but let's have a look first.

I have most of the fat deposited in my belly that needs to go.. and of course chest needs definition as well. An instrument in my GYM showed 18%, but thats about 4 months ago. what do you think ?. Feedback/estimates welcome.

[TheTaxMan]

I think you have a good base to work from, you can see you work out.

But i think you could gain more muscle naturaly and lose a bit more fat before cycling any steroids .

What is your typical daily diet?

[kloter1]

If you want to save your hair then drop the masteron .

[THAMIZHAN]

I think you have a good base to work from, you can see you work out.

But i think you could gain more muscle naturaly and lose a bit more fat before cycling any steroids .

What is your typical daily diet?

Thanks Taxman... I follow a shitty diet, however i have come up with a new diet plan, hopefully I will follow this at least for few months.

If you want to save your hair then drop the masteron.

yep... bitter truth. unfortunately I have already paid my "new PT", expecting the goods to be delivered today. Wish me luck.



here is the Diet:



wake Up: 6 AM

. Empty stomach - Normal Water
Animal Cuts
Aziderm & Minoxidil application


Breakfast: 9 AM

· 5 egg whites
· 150 ml skimmed milk approx 1 glass
· 10 almonds
. 2 brown bread omelette
*Duta 0.5 Mg

Mid Morning brunch (11 AM):

· Fish OR chicken 100 gms
. Whey protein (30 gm)Shake
· An apple
Muscletech Multivitamin, Supradyn, Androanagen

Lunch: 1:30 PM

· Chappati
. Fish/grilled chichen 100 gms
. banana


Snacks(~ 4:00):

· Protein powder (Meal Replacement)
. brown bread with Peanut butter (~two table spoon)


Pre Workout: 6 PM

· 2 eggs white
. 100 gms of sweet potato or a banana
Niox
Amino 6000
NAC => Mucinac 600MG / Liv 52
Omega-3
Aromsin 25mg EOD


Stuff

Test/Masteron /Anavar
Xtend BCAA

Post Workout: 8 PM

· Whey protein
. 5 boiled egg whites
. Glass of fresh juice
. Seedless grapes/Cucumber
Glutamine

Dinner 10 PM

. 1 Egg
. whey/casein


*Nizoral while headbath
* Arimidex , caber and Letro in hand


PCT starts 7 days after last injection


Clomid : 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex : 40/20/20/20

[Mr.BB]

IMO diet looks bad, unless you have freak genetics you need carbs to grow.

From the photo I think a clean bulk would fit you much better. Pure cutting with what you got will leave you skinny...

[Back In Black]

As stated previously you should be running test only.

Arimidex shouldn't be on hand it should be used.

No HCG ?

Your pct is incorrectly timed.

Running a good test only cycle is still what I recommend and a complete diet overhaul. No point picking the right diet for on cycle only. Post your full diet plan up in the diet section.

[NACH3]

Your PT is trying to take the easiest route - as are you - try dialing in your diet and training - you also stated 'I can hopefully follow a new diet for a few months' it takes everyday to eat and train consistently to be rewarded -

Plus your PT is trying to look better by putting you in juice instead of actually training you(has he strengthened your ligaments and tendons correctly?? Has he gone thru your stability and some strength/& conditioning w/you or has you just hopping on a cycle? He should be training your body so your muscles are all firing at the same time - develop mind/muscle connection and not just going thru the motions, furthermore making sure your form is on point and your body is functioning as one! Just giving some pointers that you should know of ask him about - and as mentioned test only w/a good diet and training program is all you would need

[THAMIZHAN]

From the photo I think a clean bulk would fit you much better. Pure cutting with what you got will leave you skinny...

I have included chapati {made of wheat}, wheat bread, rice, also idly {made of rice} somedays these are actually pure Carbs. Considering that i'm on the higher side of BF scale, I have decided to cut and bulk up later on, if need be.

As stated previously you should be running test only.

Arimidex shouldn't be on hand it should be used.

No HCG ?

Your pct is incorrectly timed.

Running a good test only cycle is still what I recommend and a complete diet overhaul. No point picking the right diet for on cycle only. Post your full diet plan up in the diet section.

I hope you have missed the line where I stated that, I have included Aromasin 25 mg EOD, So there is no need for Arimidex right ? As Aromasin would kill most of them.

if 7 day is incorrect, Should I start PCT on the 4th day ?

NO, I have not included HCG, as this is only a 8 wk cycle. Do you think testes would shrink in a short 8 wk span cycle ? I do not think so or may be i'm wrong. btw I'm might include HGH, but heard its like a commitment for a minimum of 6 months to see results.

Using HGH for months will create new muscles, I have no doubt on that but read that it will also increase the SIZE of the Organs ?? like heart is it so ?? that makes me back out.

Plus your PT is trying to look better by putting you in juice instead of actually training you(has he strengthened your ligaments and tendons correctly??

Nach, Thanks for showing concern on a random newbie, appreciate it. I have been working out for the past year and a half, so I would imagine my body is ready. Of course there are occasional cramps, wrist pain etc, if I encounter anything I will take off for few days. Anyhow I have started the cycle, removed couple of AAS, Will keep you guys posted.


New Cycle:


Week 1-8 : Alpha Pharama Test Prop : 400 mg/ Week (Mon, Fri)
Week 1-8 : Alpha Pharam Masteron : 200 mg/ Week (Wed) -> Is this under-dosed ?
Week 1-8 : Unigen xavar Anavar : 30 mg ED
Week 1-9 : 25mg Aromasin EOD (till PCT starts or shall I run it until when PCT ends)

With regards to HGH : Will it grow my organs as well ?? Kind of scary when I heard these sides.

PCT

Starts 4 days post the last pin

Clomid : 75/50/50/50
Nolvadex : 40/20/20/20
Aromain: 25/25/25/25 ? Shall I use this until when PCT ends?

Supps:

Dymatize Elite Whey
Dymatize Amino 6000
Multivitamin: Muscletesh platinum
Animal Cut
Niox- Oxide boosted
Omega3
Liv 52
BCAA - Xtend


Minoxidil 15% + 10% Azelaic acid + 3% Saw palmetto - topical solution
Dutasteride 0.5mg - Sides are scary - Not sure whether to include to the list yet
Fin 1 Mg ( If i ditch Duta)
Androanagen - Multivit tab
Azelaic acid cream 20%
Nizoral 2% - Shampoo
Supradyn - Multivit tab


Note: I have started my cycle, dropped Winny from cycle for obvious reason. Included mast prop but only at 200mg/wk and Anavar at 30mg/ED, to see if it affects my hairline. Will increase the dose or include winny based on the results, if need be. Will keep posted. Thanks.

[Back In Black]

I still think you should run test only. Just hope you don't have rsideeffects because you won't know what is causing it. You're really holding too much fat for masteron anyway.

Why are you pinning prop only twice per week?

Aromasin should be run every day rather than EOD.

Yest get some HCG there's more to it than stopping your nuts shrunking (read austinites thread on it)

Again, post your diet in the DIET section.

Honestly, you haven't worked the basics out, IMO you shouldn't be cycling if you don't know what you are doing. I'd suggest you stop, drop your bodyfat naturally (I think you are 20% based on the pic you deleted) and then when you have done lots of reading and understanding run a test only cycle.

[THAMIZHAN]

I still think you should run test only. Just hope you don't have rsideeffects because you won't know what is causing it. You're really holding too much fat for masteron anyway.

Why are you pinning prop only twice per week?

Aromasin should be run every day rather than EOD.

Yest get some HCG there's more to it than stopping your nuts shrunking (read austinites thread on it)

Again, post your diet in the DIET section.

Honestly, you haven't worked the basics out, IMO you shouldn't be cycling if you don't know what you are doing. I'd suggest you stop, drop your bodyfat naturally (I think you are 20% based on the pic you deleted) and then when you have done lots of reading and understanding run a test only cycle.

Reason for running Masteron is I thought "Base Masteron" doses may be enough to provide the anti-estrogenic protection ? that is needed while running Test. Basically I'm paranoid about Gyno, In fact right side nipple is slightly puffy.. no lump just puffyness. So I thought Masteron along with Aromasin will do the job.

I have done Pre-BW and posted it here... My Estrodial values are very much under the normal range, so slightly relieved. but do not want to take any chance against Estrogens. I have posted my BW results in the BW section last week but No response yet (Don't get me wrong, I do understand you guys must have personal problems in life /job issues to deal with, but still trying to help every newbie here which is great for the community). if you get chance, Please have a look.

Okay will use Aromasin 25mg ED. Sure will include HCG as well from 3- 9 Wk, I asked my PT to get it for me.

Dosage: 250 UI x2/week. Every Monday and Thurday.

btw, Will prolonged use of HGH, say 6 months or so.. increase the size of the internal organs ??

With regards to BF, You are almost there, I'm at 18% now. I have spent many hours reading about AAS and its ancillaries, I do have the basic idea, but the problem here is.. there are so many articles and so many recommendations, some of posters would not even have a first hand experience of AAS but still they provide suggestions and recommendations which will mislead any unsuspecting newbie. Moreover AAS is an Ocean, I know only a drop of it. Its not easy to remember everything that we come across/learn. My memory is ****** up. As I stated earlier, Happy to learn and evolve. Appreciate your response.Thanks again.