Swict from Subq to IM

**bethdoth** · 10-07-2015, 09:36 AM

Would like to get some opinions.
Stats: 54 years old, working out for over 30 years, 5'10" 204lbs, 15-16%BF, on HRT 70mg test cyp E3.5days SUBQ, 250IU's HCG twice a week, 12.5mg stane daily, give blood every 8 weeks, frequent labs for HRT.

I have blasted test once and have done one tren /test cycle (low doses). I want to start a new cycle soon 300mg test and 400mg deca durabolin weekly (administered half Sunday morning and half Wednesday evening), .25mcg caber twice a week, stane 12.5mg daily, hcg 250IU twice a week, NAC for liver support and maybe T3.

So two questions.
1. Would you switch from subq to IM then back to subq after cycle when back on HRT? I do my HRT subq and with a concentration of 200mg per ml, I would have to do 150mg E3.5d so, .75 (3/4) of a ml. That is to much for subq unless injected in two separate locations. I know going IM this would be an acceptable amount. I have read that IM verses subq effects on conversion to estogen is higher with IM. I have no past experience with my body to confirm or deny the difference between subq and IM.

2. I know the typical test/deca cycle is to run the deca for 10 weeks and test 12. If on HRT would the two extra weeks at the higher 300mg per week vise hrt level of 140mg a week, be necessary?

**Ashop** · 10-07-2015, 06:40 PM

I always go IM with my AAS. You can do whatever works best for you.

**kelkel** · 10-07-2015, 08:08 PM

1. Yes. Larger volume SQ never ends well, imho.
2. I'd run deca longer for best results. Not clear on part two of your question.

**SidVicious77** · 10-07-2015, 10:30 PM

If you're asking about the two weeks overlap between ending Deca and Test, that's so that the Test will keep you going while the Deca clears your system and make recovery easier. IMO since you'll be going back to TRT rather than PCT, no need to stop the Deca early if you're still seeing gains.

**testluva** · 10-07-2015, 11:14 PM

For HRT purposes you may run Deca for six months easily. Keep your prolactin under control with Caber and you'll be fine. I run Deca year round and may take a break twice a year for a month. Same as your test at your age. I'm in the same arena as your age and do BW every three months with my HRT doc.

**bethdoth** · 10-08-2015, 06:23 AM

Ok so I will do my test and deca IM and once done just go back to subq HRT levels.

testluva.... do you run deca at 400mg a week for 6 months? I have heard guys run it at 100mg a week for the joint and ligament benefits. I have two 10ml vials at 250mg per mil so that is 12.5 weeks at 400 a week. Since I am still a novice, I think I will run that with labs mid and post, to see what is going on inside. I have plenty of life left to run it longer later, after I know how it effects me and what the gains are.

I know I kinda did this bass ass wards by doing a low dose tren /test cycle first. I know how the tren effects me now and what the gains are/or could be. I kinda want to compare to deca.

Alin.... On the HRT forum there is a bunch of debate on which is better. The deciding factors for me was the fact that subq you don't build up scar tissue, absorbtion is slower and supposedly less sides as far as estrogen, and my lab results are fairly consistent.