i'm losing my f-ing mind any knowledge members can save me? blood work inside

[parkra]

ill try to keep this short as possible 27/M

beginning of the year i ran a test e cycle at 500/week hog 500/week 12.5 are ED. after i played with the ai and got dialed in it was good. then after 2 months my gym partner hooked me up with turnibol. it was insane for a two weeks then i noticed i couldn't get aroused anymore. i did some searching and found you can't do oral only cycles so i added the test back in while still on the turnibol but i still wasn't able to get aroused. I would want girls but i just could not get sexually aroused.

so i stopped the cycle and did a month of clomid and nolva then took blood work two months after pct:

dht 28 30~75

test total 411 349~1190

test free 9 10~30

estrogen 9 8~35

pregneolone 102 <151

prolactin 6.7 4~15

TSH 6 .5~4.5

t4 5 4.5~12

t3 uptake 35 24-39%

free thyroid index 2 1.2~4.9


being fed up i then started cycling test e again because i wanted to be able to feel normal again, its been 3 weeks and every day i still wanna get girls and i get morning wood everyday but its always flimsy and weak and i can't get turned on.

i just took a blood test while on cycle and its

total t 2150

free t 84

e 22

prolactin 3.7

igf 323

tsh 6.2

t4 4.9

free t3 uptake 34%

free thyroid index 1.8


I'm really upset i just wanna get to normal but i have no idea whats causing this? now even on t and my e in range what is causing this??

i'm guessing since everything is in range it has to be thyroid but idk. and I'm not sure what else can be out of whack to be causing this..


-if i try to masturbate it takes a quite a while just to get up 80% and I'm still not aroused its just genital stimulation getting me up

-orgasum feels weak, ejaculatory load dribbley

-have morning wood every day but its like 60%

[parkra]

also iv jerked nearly once a day, their isn't an driving force or urge its just like going for a massage its gonna be relaxing but you can live without. would not tapping help? maybe activate brain-penis connection? idk but I'm not going to jerk for awhile if it helps

[djgreen]

did you use a PCT like clomid and nolva or any hcg

[parkra]

did you use a PCT like clomid and nolva or any hcg

hcg on cycle and climid 50mg ed nova 20mg ed for a month

[parkra]

Should i take t3 for my thyroid?

[Mr.BB]

You need to go to the doctor as your thyroid has problems.

Dont try to self medicate thyroid problems.

About the sex problems forget about it till your thyroid is stabilized.

[parkra]

You need to go to the doctor as your thyroid has problems.

Dont try to self medicate thyroid problems.

About the sex problems forget about it till your thyroid is stabilized.

I'm going to make an appointment,

can thyroid be the cause of my problems?

[marcus300]

You need to come off cycle do pct and give yourself around 6 weeks then gets bloods done. Going back on cycle isn't going to help in the long run

[parkra]

You need to come off cycle do pct and give yourself around 6 weeks then gets bloods done. Going back on cycle isn't going to help in the long run

I regret it now and I'm coming off, any idea based on bloods whats going on?

[Mr.BB]

I'm going to make an appointment,

can thyroid be the cause of my problems?

yes, thyroid problems can affect you sexually

[NACH3]

yes, thyroid problems can affect you sexually

His PRL is low also... I know that will affect sexual function(just asked about the PRL - kinda like E2) too low bad news too high bad news

[parkra]

His PRL is low also... I know that will affect sexual function(just asked about the PRL - kinda like E2) too low bad news too high bad news

waa? i always thought lower the prolactin the better. how would one raise prolactin?

[Mr.BB]

His PRL is low also... I know that will affect sexual function(just asked about the PRL - kinda like E2) too low bad news too high bad news

Nach look at his tsh of 6!! He has thyroid problems.

[NACH3]

Nach look at his tsh of 6!! He has thyroid problems.

Oh I know his thyroid is ill... I was just thinking what the range for PRL is and I thought it's lowest end of range is like 5-6... His TSH is super high... 4.2 is cut off or right around there -

Thing is why for both? Why TSH 6 znd PRL 3+ I mean both will have negative sexual sides - thyroid causing most sides

[parkra]

Nach look at his tsh of 6!! He has thyroid problems.

is hypothyroid permanet? iv never had thyroid problems before AAS

[MrFreshmaker]

is hypothyroid permanet? iv never had thyroid problems before AAS

Another reason for me not to use AAS,at least not yet...
You better make an appointment with a doctor.Stop what you're doing and do a PCT like vets above advised you.

[Mr.BB]

is hypothyroid permanet? iv never had thyroid problems before AAS

Depends on the causes.

Have you ever tested TSH before AAS?

[NACH3]

is hypothyroid permanet? iv never had thyroid problems before AAS

Hypothyroidism causes hypogonadism... So like above stop clear and PCT(clomid + nolva)

If it's permanent then you would have to use medication - or possibly trt - or both(T3 - T4?)

I'm wondering what the free T3 range is(34% seems high but I could be off on this)

[parkra]

Depends on the causes.

Have you ever tested TSH before AAS?

Ye it was like 2.1 tsh, it wasnt until after aas that problems came up

[kelkel]

Read here:

Stop the Thyroid Madnessâ„¢ - Hypothyroidism and thyroid mistreatment

[parkra]

Read here:

Stop the Thyroid Madnessâ„¢ - Hypothyroidism and thyroid mistreatment

ok I'm reading over the site and it seems my problem could be caused from adrenal dysfunction. It recommends to order a salvia test kit for cortisol, should i test for dhea as well?

[parkra]

also if i pct won't i run into the same problem again?

[parkra]

i never had adrenal or thyroid problems, if i run a 6 week pct clo+nov would i eventually recover to normal? or what are the chances based on my circumstance?

[parkra]

Ok based on more research it seems more likely that my thyroid hormones are being suppressed by adrenal dysfunction and my tsh is trying to raise thyroid hormones but cant do to (what im gesisng based on research) the suppressive effects from high cortisol.

Im going to take a salvia sample for cortisol but im wondering for dhea blood test do i pick dhea or dhea sulfate?

[kelkel]

DHEA-s

[blakegains]

Hope you get it figured out buddy. Looks like you have received a lot of good help.

[parkra]

Ok after further research im almost certin my problems and chain of problems is coming from exercise induced adrenal fatigue. Iv been working out everyday since the start of my first cycle for nearly two hours and even during pct and post pct, that added with alot of coffee each morning and cutting post pct led to adrenal fatigue which suppressed my thryoid thus raising tsh to those levels but thyroid hormones still low. Which also caused my hypogodnadism. Any input on this theory? Also what can i do now that i feel im overtrained? Should i stop working out the next week or two and see how icfeel? Any other tips?

[Mr.BB]

Ok after further research im almost certin my problems and chain of problems is coming from exercise induced adrenal fatigue. Iv been working out everyday since the start of my first cycle for nearly two hours and even during pct and post pct, that added with alot of coffee each morning and cutting post pct led to adrenal fatigue which suppressed my thryoid thus raising tsh to those levels but thyroid hormones still low. Which also caused my hypogodnadism. Any input on this theory? Also what can i do now that i feel im overtrained? Should i stop working out the next week or two and see how icfeel? Any other tips?

Yes, that could have acelerated the problem. But before that your thyroid was already showing some signs by having a TSH of 2.1.
TSH above 2 should be further investigated, at least thats what I always read from Kelkel's post (as im not a thyroid "specialist").

Still think you should consult with a good endocronologist...