Do i need pct??

**mack91** · 10-31-2015, 01:11 AM

Hey guys
Im three weeks in to my cycle, testoviron and deca . Considering to jump off, do i really need pct if i jump off now ??

thanks in advance

**TheTaxMan** · 10-31-2015, 01:18 AM

I would, especially with the deca use.
The chances are you will recover without a pct but id run one anyway just to increase those chances.

Something low dose 2 weeks after cycle, like;

50/25/25/25 clomid
20/20/20/20 nolva

**mack91** · 10-31-2015, 01:23 AM

cheers bro, and how does pct work exactly?
what does 50/25/25/25 etc mean?

**TheTaxMan** · 10-31-2015, 01:26 AM

Those are dose amounts over weeks

So

Week 1 run Clomid 50mg everyday, Nolva 20mg everyday

Week 2, 3, 4 run Clomid 25mg everyday, Nolva 20mg everyday

**mack91** · 10-31-2015, 01:29 AM

cheers bro, and is pct just tablets or are they injectables?

**TheTaxMan** · 10-31-2015, 01:42 AM

Your not saying you started a cycle without having your PCT already at hand?

You should ALWAYS have pct at hand before cycling incase of things like this happening.

If you stop now, order PCT and your source sent the wrong product, or your package got lost in the mail etc your potentialy screwed.

If i were you id keep the cycle going until my PCT was in my hands

You should also know what PCT means and does before cycling.

Why are you stopping your cycle? I think you should either way because i dont think your knowledge is up to scratch, i would gamble my next cycle that your not running HCG or an AI.

But to answer your question
PCT are usually tablet form yes

**Roger11** · 10-31-2015, 01:47 AM

Are you serious?

im not having a dig here at you, we all make mistakes, but why would you go and inject drugs into your body without researching first? You have no idea, you dont even know what PCT is, and a 50mg shot of deca is well suppresive enough to cause your HPTA to become nil.

**mack91** · 10-31-2015, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheTaxMan

Your not saying you started a cycle without having your PCT already at hand?

You should ALWAYS have pct at hand before cycling incase of things like this happening.

If you stop now, order PCT and your source sent the wrong product, or your package got lost in the mail etc your potentialy screwed.

If i were you id keep the cycle going until my PCT was in my hands

You should also know what PCT means and does before cycling.

Why are you stopping your cycle? I think you should either way because i dont think your knowledge is up to scratch, i would gamble my next cycle that your not running HCG or an AI.

But to answer your question
PCT are usually tablet form yes

hey bro
my last injection was 9 days ago (third injection)
hoping to start pct next week, getting clomid and nolva
is that alright?

**Simon1972** · 10-31-2015, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by mack91

hey bro
my last injection was 9 days ago (third injection)
hoping to start pct next week, getting clomid and nolva
is that alright?

hey bro??? yo shuda got pct b4 yo.
git onnit asap , you be aiight-

...but seriously, ask your mothers permission before using her credit card to buy stuff off the net.

**Xphanial** · 10-31-2015, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Simon1972

hey bro??? yo shuda got pct b4 yo. git onnit asap , you be aiight- ...but seriously, ask your mothers permission before using her credit card to buy stuff off the net.

Oh snap !
You didn't ?

**Simon1972** · 10-31-2015, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Xphanial

Oh snap !
You didn't ?

...i did, feel bad i do..

nah!

**Althenery** · 10-31-2015, 11:17 PM

Holy posoly,

**mack91** · 11-01-2015, 01:19 AM

not getting it off the net bro, someone getting it for me

**TheTaxMan** · 11-01-2015, 02:42 AM

Yes clomid and nolva, follow the dose i posted above you will be fine.
Next time do more research, then when you think you know what to do, research again, you cant do too much of this. Everyone here is always learning no matter how much they know. Its vital you learn the basics though!

**ianstevson** · 11-01-2015, 05:31 PM

good luck friend

**Simon1972** · 11-01-2015, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by mack91

not getting it off the net bro, someone getting it for me

ok i take it all back then, seems legit.

**mack91** · 11-03-2015, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Simon1972

ok i take it all back then, seems legit.

No one asked for your opinion anyways

**mack91** · 11-03-2015, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by TheTaxMan

Yes clomid and nolva, follow the dose i posted above you will be fine.
Next time do more research, then when you think you know what to do, research again, you cant do too much of this. Everyone here is always learning no matter how much they know. Its vital you learn the basics though!

Bro I still haven't got my ****ing pct, 11 days after injection. Should I be concerned?

**73rr** · 11-03-2015, 07:12 PM

I thought u started a 600 mg of tren and hgh because of all of are awesome help before. Funny that your back for help.

Anyways. Yes u need it. Start pushing your supplier

**mack91** · 11-03-2015, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by 73rr

I thought u started a 600 mg of tren and hgh because of all of are awesome help before. Funny that your back for help.

Anyways. Yes u need it. Start pushing your supplier

Wasn't me who posted that. Funny enough, the question wasn't directed at you

**Bodacious** · 11-03-2015, 07:30 PM

I would stop and run a PCT. Your 3 weeks in, Deca will most likely shut you down one week in. Run the PCT taxman told you to run. GL

Just next time do more research and ask question if your not for sure. We are all here to help. We all learn everyday.

**Bodacious** · 11-03-2015, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by mack91

Bro I still haven't got my ****ing pct, 11 days after injection. Should I be concerned?

Its going to a tough road for sure. Deca is a strong compound.

**MrFreshmaker** · 11-03-2015, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by mack91

Wasn't me who posted that. Funny enough, the question wasn't directed at you

Yes,it was you!

**73rr** · 11-03-2015, 07:48 PM

^^^was just about to do that!

Anyways like I said go start pushing your supplier or go to the doc. If u order somewhere online it's most likely going to take a week or longer

**mack91** · 11-04-2015, 03:20 AM

Worst case scenario, I don't use pct. how will this affect me?

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-04-2015, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by mack91

Hey guys
Im three weeks in to my cycle, testoviron and deca . Considering to jump off, do i really need pct if i jump off now ??

thanks in advance

No. Lee Priest never did one singel pct through his entire bodybuilding empire. I have done 20 cycles without it. Yes, it may help you keep your muscles more weeks but its just a matter of time before you end up as you were ment to be naturally. No pct in the world will prevent that. And, if you ask me, healthwise i cant see how adding ileagal drugs for 5 more weeks are more healthy.

**Mr.BB** · 11-04-2015, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by mack91

Bro I still haven't got my ****ing pct, 11 days after injection. Should I be concerned?

Deca shuts you down from the 1st injection. You need to wait at least 21 days after last shot of deca to start PCT, thats one of the reasons testosterone is advised to be run at least one week longer than deca.
So you still have time.

Originally Posted by Silabolin

No. Lee Priest never did one singel pct through his entire bodybuilding empire. I have done 20 cycles without it. Yes, it may help you keep your muscles more weeks but its just a matter of time before you end up as you were ment to be naturally. No pct in the world will prevent that. And, if you ask me, healthwise i cant see how adding ileagal drugs for 5 more weeks are more healthy.

OP, please disregard this comment, its old-school, broscience info, we advanced since then. You should have your hormones flowing as fast as you can, instead of spending months fighting with low testosterone .

**mack91** · 11-04-2015, 07:48 AM

Seeing as though my supplier has walked out on me, I will go to the doctors and let them know everything, hopefully they can supply me with pct

**Mr.BB** · 11-04-2015, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by mack91

Seeing as though my supplier has walked out on me, I will go to the doctors and let them know everything, hopefully they can supply me with pct

Bad idea, most doctors are clueless about hormones, and even more about hpta restart.

You still have time to start pct as deca is a very slow compound, stressing will not solve your problem.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-04-2015, 09:46 AM

Dont listen to BB. You will be ok, you dont need it. Come on, 3 weeks. When its that short, its not very dosedependent either. You will recover quick. A 10 week low dose would be more difficult to recover from.

You will do better with a minipct, but you will be fine in....5-6 weeks.

And even with a pct you may stil run into trouble. I guess you did not run a DA with your deca . Meaning your prolactin migth mess up your lh-production no matter what.

To heal BBs tears now i can admit he was the one who gave me that idea as a solution on why my last pct didnt work.

**NACH3** · 11-04-2015, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Dont listen to BB. You will be ok, you dont need it. Come on, 3 weeks. When its that short, its not very dosedependent either. You will recover quick. A 10 week low dose would be more difficult to recover from.

You will do better with a minipct, but you will be fine in....5-6 weeks.

And even with a pct you may stil run into trouble. I guess you did not run a DA with your deca . Meaning your prolactin migth mess up your lh-production no matter what.

To heal BBs tears now i can admit he was the one who gave me that idea as a solution on why my last pct didnt work.

OP - like BB stated your shut down after that first injection of deca!! Listen to BB... Deca is the harshest steroid to recover from - some need two pct's to recover if the first one didn't work out like planned..... Wait the 21 days for it to clear then start your pct - better safe than sorry!

**MrFreshmaker** · 11-04-2015, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

Dont listen to BB. You will be ok, you dont need it. Come on, 3 weeks. When its that short, its not very dosedependent either. You will recover quick. A 10 week low dose would be more difficult to recover from. You will do better with a minipct, but you will be fine in....5-6 weeks. And even with a pct you may stil run into trouble. I guess you did not run a DA with your deca. Meaning your prolactin migth mess up your lh-production no matter what. To heal BBs tears now i can admit he was the one who gave me that idea as a solution on why my last pct didnt work.

Says the guy who f... him self up,and he is in trt for the rest of his life!

**TheTaxMan** · 11-04-2015, 03:25 PM

FFS just run a PCT, it costs the same as a handful of protein bars, if your supplier is no longer around, find another, theres loads!

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**AR's King Silabolin** · 11-04-2015, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by MrFreshmaker

Says the guy who f... him self up,and he is in trt for the rest of his life!

What dude. Im not on trt. Im not ****ed up. Just had some 2 months after last summercycle as a very hard gainer , most likely because of prolactin.

Now im stronger and better than ever. Using sarms so health is ok also. You shoul listen more to me and Lee Priest.