Decided next cycle

[allskill87]

So I'm thinking it's going to be test e 750mg/w tren ace 200/w deca 300/w first 4 weeks dbol 100mg. I might add winny in for 45 days due to spring break trip would be 50mg a day. What do you all think? Again 245lbs done all of these before just not tren and deca at the same time. Trying to add 15lbs not on this cycle alone just saying in general. One thing I want to do is stay as mean as possible yes I know that's diet but also the tren and winny will help

[Bio-Active]

What is your cycle experience and stats?

[NACH3]

So I'm thinking it's going to be test e 750mg/w tren ace 200/w deca 300/w first 4 weeks dbol 100mg. I might add winny in for 45 days due to spring break trip would be 50mg a day. What do you all think? Again 245lbs done all of these before just not tren and deca at the same time. Trying to add 15lbs not on this cycle alone just saying in general. One thing I want to do is stay as mean as possible yes I know that's diet but also the tren and winny will help

I wouldn't run both of those Orals at the same time(both are very Hepatoxic) you could get away 4 wks as kicker and 4wks backloaded - winny)...

List your stats(tho you've done 6 cycles and are 25?) not judging just checking if your 25 or.... Cycles completed etc! Snd list all of your ancillaries AI hCG DA PCT protocol... your first line of defense is controling your E2! If it's controlled your PRL won't be a problem or shouldn't be... Therefore, at the least you need Prami or caber on hand if not taking it from the start...

Here's the thing - running two 19nors is/can be dangerous if you can't control your E2... Both are Progestins which will elevate your PRL levels. Plus, there's no reason to run your tren at 200mgs wkly and Nandrolone(durabolin) 300mgs wkly as the stronger Androgen will win outright at the AR(androgen receptor)... Meaning if you've not run Tren yet then imho, switch to NPP run that higher 4-600mgs/wkly and just 100mgs/wk of Tren a / that way your NPP being a shorter ester will kick right away and will now win outright at the AR but you'll get the fat burning affects of the Tren at a low dose...

Don't try upping your Tren to take over the AR if you've not run it... Run it by itself first then maybe think about this / but in the meantime try it the opposite way I described! ^

How long are you planning to run this?? And how does your body react to deca vs NPP?? I ask b/c my body responds better/and leaner to NPP yet still get all the strength and size I would from deca?!?!

[allskill87]

I wouldn't run both of those Orals at the same time(both are very Hepatoxic) you could get away 4 wks as kicker and 4wks backloaded - winny)...

List your stats(tho you've done 6 cycles and are 25?) not judging just checking if your 25 or.... Cycles completed etc! Snd list all of your ancillaries AI hCG DA PCT protocol... your first line of defense is controling your E2! If it's controlled your PRL won't be a problem or shouldn't be... Therefore, at the least you need Prami or caber on hand if not taking it from the start...

Here's the thing - running two 19nors is/can be dangerous if you can't control your E2... Both are Progestins which will elevate your PRL levels. Plus, there's no reason to run your tren at 200mgs wkly and Nandrolone(durabolin) 300mgs wkly as the stronger Androgen will win outright at the AR(androgen receptor)... Meaning if you've not run Tren yet then imho, switch to NPP run that higher 4-600mgs/wkly and just 100mgs/wk of Tren a / that way your NPP being a shorter ester will kick right away and will now win outright at the AR but you'll get the fat burning affects of the Tren at a low dose...

Don't try upping your Tren to take over the AR if you've not run it... Run it by itself first then maybe think about this / but in the meantime try it the opposite way I described! ^

How long are you planning to run this?? And how does your body react to deca vs NPP?? I ask b/c my body responds better/and leaner to NPP yet still get all the strength and size I would from deca?!?!

I'm 28 about to be 29 haven't updated in a while obviously haha. This will be my 10th cycle. Done deca, dbol and test once. A few just test and two Test and tren cycles highest tren iv done is 400mg a week. Used nova and clomid for most pct's the last two iv used hcg along with them. I'm 245lbs 7-9%bf year round. Well I didn't plan on taking both at the same time just dbol for the first month thn about a month off and start winny before a spring break trip. Iv never had any problems with anything worst sides have been night sweats or insomnia. I was thinking about a 16 week cycle

[Bio-Active]

if you are trying to gain 15 lbs that could be done easy with either test and tren or test and deca

[allskill87]

if you are trying to gain 15 lbs that could be done easy with either test and tren or test and deca

Yeah but what would keep me the leanest? Tren? I'm just trying to do something different this time sorta. Deca should put on more size correct?

[Bio-Active]

Yeah but what would keep me the leanest? Tren? I'm just trying to do something different this time sorta. Deca should put on more size correct?

that will be determined by your nutrition. If you run tren yeah you will stay lean if your nutrition is right but you can get real flat

[allskill87]

that will be determined by your nutrition. If you run tren yeah you will stay lean if your nutrition is right but you can get real flat

Yeah my diets normally strict I'll cheat every now and thn on a Sunday with pizza and other carbs. I'm just thinking maybe deca would be better off if Iv ran tren the past two and haven't touched deca in a few years?

[Bio-Active]

Yeah my diets normally strict I'll cheat every now and thn on a Sunday with pizza and other carbs. I'm just thinking maybe deca would be better off if Iv ran tren the past two and haven't touched deca in a few years?

deca is fine with the right nutrition. Have you thought about npp?

[allskill87]

deca is fine with the right nutrition. Have you thought about npp?

No I haven't looked much into it. I know it's supposed to be the same thing as deca just a short ester correct? I was saying mixing test deca tren because I have 3 bottles of tren left from my last cycle which was about 5 months ago

[Bio-Active]

No I haven't looked much into it. I know it's supposed to be the same thing as deca just a short ester correct? I was saying mixing test deca tren because I have 3 bottles of tren left from my last cycle which was about 5 months ago

npp will have less bloat but if you already have the nandralone decanate I would run that with test and a strict diet. Save the tren for another cycle

[allskill87]

npp will have less bloat but if you already have the nandralone decanate I would run that with test and a strict diet. Save the tren for another cycle

No I don't have the deca I just 3 bottles of tren Ace and 4 test e.

[Bio-Active]

No I don't have the deca I just 3 bottles of tren Ace and 4 test e.

well then ya you could run the test and tren but your going to need to keep your carb intake up. It's not enough tren to last long is the issue though

[allskill87]

well then ya you could run the test and tren but your going to need to keep your carb intake up. It's not enough tren to last long is the issue though

Oh I'm placing a order here in a week or so so I plan on getting more test and tren and was going to get deca also but if your insite is to not run tren and deca at the same time I'll just have to decide what one I'd wanna do

[Bio-Active]

Oh I'm placing a order here in a week or so so I plan on getting more test and tren and was going to get deca also but if your insite is to not run tren and deca at the same time I'll just have to decide what one I'd wanna do

unless you have run both before I would run one or the other

[allskill87]

unless you have run both before I would run one or the other

Both at the same time? Iv never done more thn just 2 injectable at once and 1 oral added with it which was the dbol. So I guess I'll either just up my tren dosage if that's what I decide to do. With deca would I wanna up my test dosage to help with "deca dick" I didn't have that problem the first time I ran it but just want to make sure I don't ever have that problem haha

[Bio-Active]

Both at the same time? Iv never done more thn just 2 injectable at once and 1 oral added with it which was the dbol. So I guess I'll either just up my tren dosage if that's what I decide to do. With deca would I wanna up my test dosage to help with "deca dick" I didn't have that problem the first time I ran it but just want to make sure I don't ever have that problem haha

so long as you run your correct ancillary deca dick shouldn't be an issue. What doses were you thinking?

[NACH3]

unless you have run both before I would run one or the other

X2... Plus as we both mentioned look into NPP - its a lot less bloat for me(not that I was bad with deca it just gonna bloat moreso than NPP and in my experience NPP seems the better option for me... If you've not tried it - try test/NPP.... It's by far still my favorite compound... Or you can always do like Bio mentioned test/deca - just keep water intake high and your diet has to be in point - by your stats looks like your eating well nicest stats, btw

[allskill87]

so long as you run your correct ancillary deca dick shouldn't be an issue. What doses were you thinking?

Alright cool. Well if I do test deca 900 test 300 deca a week. Tren I'd stay at 750 test or maybe 600 test 400 tren?

[allskill87]

X2... Plus as we both mentioned look into NPP - its a lot less bloat for me(not that I was bad with deca it just gonna bloat moreso than NPP and in my experience NPP seems the better option for me... If you've not tried it - try test/NPP.... It's by far still my favorite compound... Or you can always do like Bio mentioned test/deca - just keep water intake high and your diet has to be in point - by your stats looks like your eating well nicest stats, btw

Yeah I'm going to look in to Npp once I get home and on a computer. You like it better thn tren? What dosages of test Npp do you find best results for yourself? Thanks yeah I'm pretty strict with my diet like I say some weeks I'll have a cheat day on Sunday with a probably around 400 carbs haha. Pizza, cinnabons and so on haha. That chest workout the next day is always amazing

[Bio-Active]

Alright cool. Well if I do test deca 900 test 300 deca a week. Tren I'd stay at 750 test or maybe 600 test 400 tren?

I think that is a bit much on the test and a little low on the deca. Why not run the test at 5-750 and the deca at 4-600?

Yeah I'm going to look in to Npp once I get home and on a computer. You like it better thn tren? What dosages of test Npp do you find best results for yourself? Thanks yeah I'm pretty strict with my diet like I say some weeks I'll have a cheat day on Sunday with a probably around 400 carbs haha. Pizza, cinnabons and so on haha. That chest workout the next day is always amazing

Npp 4-600 ew is the sweet spot for most

[NACH3]

Yeah I'm going to look in to Npp once I get home and on a computer. You like it better thn tren? What dosages of test Npp do you find best results for yourself? Thanks yeah I'm pretty strict with my diet like I say some weeks I'll have a cheat day on Sunday with a probably around 400 carbs haha. Pizza, cinnabons and so on haha. That chest workout the next day is always amazing

Just curious why run your test at 300 w/deca that high?

I like test at 700-50(depending on prop/E) but I'd run my NPP anywhere 425-650mg/wk.... It all depends on my goals how high I'm going to run my main compound.

[Bio-Active]

Just curious why run your test at 300 w/deca that high?

I like test at 700-50(depending on prop/E) but I'd run my NPP anywhere 425-650mg/wk.... It all depends on my goals how high I'm going to run my main compound.

He isn't he is saying test at 900 and deca at 300

[allskill87]

I think that is a bit much on the test and a little low on the deca. Why not run the test at 5-750 and the deca at 4-600?




Npp 4-600 ew is the sweet spot for most

Alright I'm going to look up npp, how often is that pin?

[allskill87]

Just curious why run your test at 300 w/deca that high?

I like test at 700-50(depending on prop/E) but I'd run my NPP anywhere 425-650mg/wk.... It all depends on my goals how high I'm going to run my main compound.

Ya 900 test 300 deca. Sorry I was driving while typing. I'm just looking for more size so I'm assuming around 600npp would be best