2nd Cycle advice

[lirenguoke]

Hey guys, here's how I plan my 2nd 8-week cycle:
1-8week Enan 500mg/week
1-8week Eq 400mg/week
hct throughout the cycle

Should I inject Enan, Eq, and hct in one sitting?

pct: Nolvadex, arimidex

Here are my stats:
24yr, 5"4, 150lbs

I've done an Enan-only cycle.

[Bio-Active]

Why Eq? Your pct needs work. Adex should be run in cycle and I would suggest running hcg on cycle as well. Pct would be best with 2 serms Clomid and nolvadex

[NACH3]

Hey guys, here's how I plan my 2nd 8-week cycle:
1-8week Enan 500mg/week
1-8week Eq 400mg/week
hct throughout the cycle

Should I inject Enan, Eq, and hct in one sitting?

pct: Nolvadex, arimidex

Here are my stats:
24yr, 5"4, 150lbs

I've done an Enan-only cycle.

Bio nailed it!

Why Eq/& ethanate for 8wks?? Eq needs to be ran for 16+ wks to see its full potential which won't be much IMHO... I think there are much better choices out there to add than eq! If you can run prop for 8wks a short ester not two long esters(which Boldenon Undecyclate takes 21days to clear meaning it'll just be getting started when you have to drop it and remember you'd have to run your test longer than the EQ for the eq to clear then pct can start -

Id say your better off backloading Anavar for 8-10wks with sufficient liver support!

[lirenguoke]

Hey sorry I messed up the pct.

I plan to run hcg and arimidex the whole cycle. Clomid and Nolvadex for pct.

Hey guys, here's how I plan my 2nd 8-week cycle:
1-8week Enan 500mg/week
1-8week Eq 400mg/week
hct throughout the cycle

Should I inject Enan, Eq, and hct in one sitting?

pct: Nolvadex, arimidex

Here are my stats:
24yr, 5"4, 150lbs

I've done an Enan-only cycle.

[lirenguoke]

Thanks for your reply! I was just following a post somewhere in the forum saying either eq or deca will be good to complement enan, but eq has milder sides and easier to keep the gains. What should I add for a second cycle?

[lirenguoke]

Why Eq? Your pct needs work. Adex should be run in cycle and I would suggest running hcg on cycle as well. Pct would be best with 2 serms Clomid and nolvadex

Thanks for your reply! I was just following a post somewhere in the forum saying either eq or deca will be good to complement enan, but eq has milder sides and easier to keep the gains. What should I add for a second cycle?

[lirenguoke]

Bio nailed it!

Why Eq/& ethanate for 8wks?? Eq needs to be ran for 16+ wks to see its full potential which won't be much IMHO... I think there are much better choices out there to add than eq! If you can run prop for 8wks a short ester not two long esters(which Boldenon Undecyclate takes 21days to clear meaning it'll just be getting started when you have to drop it and remember you'd have to run your test longer than the EQ for the eq to clear then pct can start -

Id say your better off backloading Anavar for 8-10wks with sufficient liver support!

I've heard I'd better tried my limits with the injectables first before I use orals. What do you recommend to inject with Enan for an 8-week cycle? Prop? How about the dose? Thanks!

[Bio-Active]

I've heard I'd better tried my limits with the injectables first before I use orals. What do you recommend to inject with Enan for an 8-week cycle? Prop? How about the dose? Thanks!

if you really want to use another compound I would add nandaralone but you could probably make gains on test only for a second cycle

[NACH3]

I've heard I'd better tried my limits with the injectables first before I use orals. What do you recommend to inject with Enan for an 8-week cycle? Prop? How about the dose? Thanks!

I do like what your saying... I chose var due to its very mild liver toxicity - as long as your taking NAC(N-acetyl-cistine) for liver supplementation you'd be gtg...

However, with adding another injectable you could always frontload w/prop(1-4) on top of your Ethanate dose... And it'll really kick fast... Then you could drop the Ethanate at wk 10 and add back in the prop(11-12) so your pct will start sooner and if diet is on point you'll gain more than you have in your last cycle!

I agree w/Bio in using NPP(nandrolone phenyl propionate) short ester nandrolone just in case something were to happen your not locked into the cycle for another 2wks or longer w/the decanate ester(21days to clear)

[lirenguoke]

I think test only doesn't work too well for me. I didn't gain too much in the first cycle (I ate enough I think. I followed the calories formula by Austinite in this forum). I gained like 10lbs after 8 weeks. But it's been two weeks after done with pct and I kept most of the gains. What's the dosage for nandaralone?

if you really want to use another compound I would add nandaralone but you could probably make gains on test only for a second cycle

[Bio-Active]

I think test only doesn't work too well for me. I didn't gain too much in the first cycle (I ate enough I think. I followed the calories formula by Austinite in this forum). I gained like 10lbs after 8 weeks. But it's been two weeks after done with pct and I kept most of the gains. What's the dosage for nandaralone?

10 lbs in eight weeks is pretty darn good

[73rr]

I think test only doesn't work too well for me. I didn't gain too much in the first cycle (I ate enough I think. I followed the calories formula by Austinite in this forum). I gained like 10lbs after 8 weeks. But it's been two weeks after done with pct and I kept most of the gains. What's the dosage for nandaralone?

I would say that test works well for u if u kept 10 lbs. After pct

[lirenguoke]

Oh it is? Ok I was thinking I did something wrong. I read some posts saying they gained 20lbs but I guess it's longer cycles and stronger compounds

10 lbs in eight weeks is pretty darn good

[lirenguoke]

Just to make sure, you are saying I should do
1-4wk prop + enan
5-10wk enan
11-12wk prop

correct? When should I start pct if I follow this?

Should I use nandrolone or prop...

I do like what your saying... I chose var due to its very mild liver toxicity - as long as your taking NAC(N-acetyl-cistine) for liver supplementation you'd be gtg...

However, with adding another injectable you could always frontload w/prop(1-4) on top of your Ethanate dose... And it'll really kick fast... Then you could drop the Ethanate at wk 10 and add back in the prop(11-12) so your pct will start sooner and if diet is on point you'll gain more than you have in your last cycle!

I agree w/Bio in using NPP(nandrolone phenyl propionate) short ester nandrolone just in case something were to happen your not locked into the cycle for another 2wks or longer w/the decanate ester(21days to clear)

[NACH3]

Learn more about the other compounds b4 using them - learn how to build a cycle around you - eat to grow... eat clean whole foods(your diet and training dictate your gains) train your arse off and recover!

Start a thread(new)and list everything your going to take and how in mgs and include all ancilaries(AI HCG PCT)...

You should be more focused on your pct at the moment! You still need to recover and continue to eat and feed the new muscle tissue!

[free_at_last]

Oh it is? Ok I was thinking I did something wrong. I read some posts saying they gained 20lbs but I guess it's longer cycles and stronger compounds

they probably used an oral also, like d-bol or anadrol. if I were you i'd do this for my 2nd cycle:

1-8 test-p 500mg/wk
1-8 npp 400mg/wk

[lirenguoke]

cool! when should I start cutting?

Learn more about the other compounds b4 using them - learn how to build a cycle around you - eat to grow... eat clean whole foods(your diet and training dictate your gains) train your arse off and recover!

Start a thread(new)and list everything your going to take and how in mgs and include all ancilaries(AI HCG PCT)...

You should be more focused on your pct at the moment! You still need to recover and continue to eat and feed the new muscle tissue!

[NACH3]

cool! when should I start cutting?

Usually you get bloods 6-8 wks after pct to see where your at if you've recovered to the best of your ability... Sometime when you know your normal T levels are substantial then I'd say that's a good a time as ever...

Free at last also brought up a good option one we were talking about NPP - great compound one of my favs - but it can create more sides - but easily prevented by keeping your E2 in range(first line of defense) - if you choose the test e prop frontload just post it up in a new thread and we'll comment on it - or if you decide to do more research then post it w/ancilaries and stats including bf%

[lirenguoke]

Thanks a lot!

Usually you get bloods 6-8 wks after pct to see where your at if you've recovered to the best of your ability... Sometime when you know your normal T levels are substantial then I'd say that's a good a time as ever...

Free at last also brought up a good option one we were talking about NPP - great compound one of my favs - but it can create more sides - but easily prevented by keeping your E2 in range(first line of defense) - if you choose the test e prop frontload just post it up in a new thread and we'll comment on it - or if you decide to do more research then post it w/ancilaries and stats including bf%

[lirenguoke]

Thanks a lot!

they probably used an oral also, like d-bol or anadrol. if I were you i'd do this for my 2nd cycle:

1-8 test-p 500mg/wk
1-8 npp 400mg/wk

[lirenguoke]

And yeah, I'm not starting a new cycle until next year (late winter/early spring). I'm thinking to do more research first and make it count.

Usually you get bloods 6-8 wks after pct to see where your at if you've recovered to the best of your ability... Sometime when you know your normal T levels are substantial then I'd say that's a good a time as ever...

Free at last also brought up a good option one we were talking about NPP - great compound one of my favs - but it can create more sides - but easily prevented by keeping your E2 in range(first line of defense) - if you choose the test e prop frontload just post it up in a new thread and we'll comment on it - or if you decide to do more research then post it w/ancilaries and stats including bf%