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11-24-2015, 02:59 PM #1New Member
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How is this stack for max natural test levels?
Whats up guys.
I'm young. I've cycled before. I don't want to cycle again until im 30 and/or I've reached my genetic limit. i am getting bloods tomorrow to see what my current total and free test levels are on FSH, LH etc. I have cycled before so i feel like my HPTA has been negatively affected.
This is the plan
1k HCG EOD for 20 days
12.5mg Aromosin E3D
take a 5 day break...
Start Clomid 50/25/25/25/12.5
Nolva 40/20/20/20/10/10
with aromosin still 12.5mg E3D...
Caber .5mg E3D throughout and
t3/t4 12.5mcg/50mcg ED
So I figure this 8 week plan will get my natural levels restarted and at optimal levels.. I know people have attempted restarts before and their HPTA always falls back down to what they were before the HCG/clomid/nolva regime. Thats fine.. I can do this 8 week cycle 2-3 times a year if need be.
After the 8 week cycle will this give me optimal natural gains?
1. Creatine
2. tongkat ali
3. proviron 50mg ed
4. caber .5mg E3D
5. Aromosin 12.5mcg E3D
6. Clen 20-60mcg ED
7. CJC1295 no DAC/Ipamorelin
8. Cissus
9. Maca, macuna puriens, horny goat supplement
7. topical formestane/11oxo formula... Run this stack for 8 weeks then back to another 8 week restart.... and keep rinsing and repeating. Hopefully getting close to 1k TT year round. What do you guys think? I know Im crazy but this could be a whole new protocol for natural trainers.Last edited by ripped_k1d; 11-24-2015 at 03:07 PM.
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11-24-2015, 04:07 PM #2
Sounds like a cocktail for liver stress to me
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11-24-2015, 04:22 PM #3New Member
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True that.. The clomid, nolva and proviron are liver toxic but what else the armosin? We aren't talking the crazy doses I see people run after harsh cycles. Would taking a few milk thistle w/ NAC caps a day mitigate the liver stress?
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11-24-2015, 04:38 PM #4
I cant honestly say.
just looking at all of the tablets, i thought its got to be straining the liver, might not be any worse than running a cycle, i dont honestly know but its something to think about
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Look up Dr. Scally's power pct - your testes are last to respond to the HCG therapy(at high doses) it's used as a last resort not to keep on doing it... Plus your leydig cell function won't be functioning for long if you plan to do this more than once!
If you feel like your t levels have plummeted than get BW as you stated and go from there - not the protocol your trying.... Over and over again - wil negatively impact you imho...
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11-24-2015, 05:09 PM #6
Taking all that will probably do more harm than good. Just wait for your results and go from there. You probably won't need to do anything.
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11-24-2015, 05:12 PM #7
Its a very bad plan.
Wait for the bw results like bona said^^^, before doing something stupid like taking caber, t3, t4, etc etc etc
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