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    2nd cycle plan. with a couple general questions.

    Ok. So, newbie. 2nd cycle.

    Weight:235
    Bench 315
    Squat 415
    Deadlift:500
    Been working out for 8 years. Just did my first cycle in august-sept was test cyp only for 12 weeks. Had a 25lb gain. Came off lost about 10lb of it.

    Ok, so this time id like to get a "kick start"
    Test prop wks 1-4
    Test cyp 1-12

    So what would the doasages be??
    To me in my, i think, common sense a 1cc of prop eod and 1 cc of cyp e4d would be too much. So instead of pinning twice in the same day i would just fill the same pin with 1cc of prop and 1cc of cyp then go from their. Is this too much? Should i back off the prop to .5cc and 1cc of cyp??
    Thoughts please.

    Also, just to make sure i have the AI and serm definitions and uses correctly in my head.
    Ai is used ON cycle because it "kills" excess estrogen and SERM is used OFF cycle because it BLOCKS estrogen from BINDING. so in my mind,if i understand my research correctly, it allows estrogen to still be in your body and regulate itself so it can get back to its normal state. Or does the truth about AI and serms still elide me? Thanks

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    Your close the ai stops excess test from aromatizing and yes the serms just compete for the receptor in the mammary gland. Have you read the sticky planning and executing my first successful cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by themexicanguy
    Ok. So, newbie. 2nd cycle. Weight:235 Bench 315 Squat 415 Deadlift:500 Been working out for 8 years. Just did my first cycle in august-sept was test cyp only for 12 weeks. Had a 25lb gain. Came off lost about 10lb of it. Ok, so this time id like to get a "kick start" Test prop wks 1-4 Test cyp 1-12 So what would the doasages be?? To me in my, i think, common sense a 1cc of prop eod and 1 cc of cyp e4d would be too much. So instead of pinning twice in the same day i would just fill the same pin with 1cc of prop and 1cc of cyp then go from their. Is this too much? Should i back off the prop to .5cc and 1cc of cyp?? Thoughts please. Also, just to make sure i have the AI and serm definitions and uses correctly in my head. Ai is used ON cycle because it "kills" excess estrogen and SERM is used OFF cycle because it BLOCKS estrogen from BINDING. so in my mind,if i understand my research correctly, it allows estrogen to still be in your body and regulate itself so it can get back to its normal state. Or does the truth about AI and serms still elide me? Thanks
    is your test cyp 250? And is your test prop 100?

    If so I'd mix the cyp in your eod prop shots cause pinning with prop eod sucks balls trust bro. Great pumps with the prop though. If I were you I'd stack it with some orals too.

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    Yes it is 250 and 100. Im going to stick to test only. Ive been told, to try to get as much results with as little supplement as possible. So ill probably go with test only this cycle and next. But prop with cyp. Eod what would the cc dosage be then? 1cc of prop with 2 more ticks of cyp eod??

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